GTO vs. another TA?
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^Maybe you haven't done enough research with your hours of review on the internet, and consumer reports. Fbody's have several common issues. Window motors (just like your buddy's GTO) and BCM problems are good examples.
I definitely would not say a GTO, or Fbody is an unreliable car.
OP, my unbiased suggestion to you is to get GTO. It seems to me like you don't think the GTO is ugly, and don't really care about the weight. Those seem to be the big complaints on the GTO in this thread.
I definitely would not say a GTO, or Fbody is an unreliable car.
OP, my unbiased suggestion to you is to get GTO. It seems to me like you don't think the GTO is ugly, and don't really care about the weight. Those seem to be the big complaints on the GTO in this thread.
I personally think the GTO looks badass, though I know I'm lonely on that side of the fence. so no, that's not an issue, and since they really are only ~200lbs heavier it's not a huge deal either. mechanical/electrical problems are not a big deal, I'm going to UTI for automotive technology, so anything that goes wrong I can fix.
Which one do you want? I mean that's really all it's going to come down to. It's your money, and all you're going to get here is opinions and maybe a little bias
Not to say that there isn't tons of useful and helpful suggestions on here. But your question is going to get you only subjectvie answers. Both cars have ups and downs as you have seen. That being said, I think they are both great cars, but again- it's you who has to drive it.
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^ Eh... You can get good answers asking these types of questions. You just sift through all the "that car is ugly" etc. bull ****, and look for the posts that throw out facts.
But I agree with you, both are great cars, and its up to the OP. I think he will be happy either way.
But I agree with you, both are great cars, and its up to the OP. I think he will be happy either way.
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I personally think the GTO looks badass, though I know I'm lonely on that side of the fence. so no, that's not an issue, and since they really are only ~200lbs heavier it's not a huge deal either. mechanical/electrical problems are not a big deal, I'm going to UTI for automotive technology, so anything that goes wrong I can fix.
I want both. that's the problem haha. I threw the question out to you guys just to see what kind of answers I would get
regardless of which one I get, at some point down the road, I'll buy the other as well, just was curious to see what I should start with. I will drive both before I buy too.
yup I know which ones to pay attention to!
I want both. that's the problem haha. I threw the question out to you guys just to see what kind of answers I would get
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yup I know which ones to pay attention to!
ps. if it was me, and I could afford both-I'd keep the GTO stock (maybe exhaust,cai,tune) as a quick/fast daily, and mod the hell outta the WS6 for a weekend warrior
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Sounds like your needs lean more towards a GTO. Whats your power goals? Track times? Lets talk important numbers lol. The F-Bodys are lighter and have a solid rear, then again the 10 bolt will need to be swapped. F-Bodys also come with the LS1 vs. the LS2's for the GTO. I think if your just looking to throw some parts on and have a quick DD...go with the GTO. If your looking to swap more parts but be faster and more possibility get the T/A. I've got a buddy on here whos a sponsor (Ryne @ CMS) His GTO's been as fast as 10.01 with a stock diff and drive line with hardened shafts. The LS2 will make more power just throwing parts on it, and will be more reliable. Not to sure about the body or elec. stuff. My 2 cents
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here's something to consider your wanting something fast right. well i have a firend that has a gto and we both make about the same numbers at the track he runs 12.9 with drag radials and i ran 12.2 with street tires. while his car responded great with nitrous he got down to 11.5. he spent about twice as much to make his car go faster. just some thought for you!
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here's something to consider your wanting something fast right. well i have a firend that has a gto and we both make about the same numbers at the track he runs 12.9 with drag radials and i ran 12.2 with street tires. while his car responded great with nitrous he got down to 11.5. he spent about twice as much to make his car go faster. just some thought for you!
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I own both.... a ls1 f-body and GTO. If you've never owned a gto...and your opinion is based off what you read on the internet...your a moron! Its all what YOU want to do with the car. If you want a full out drag toy...yeah, buy an f-body. Its a shitload cheaper, nobody is doubting that. If your wanting a hell of alot more comfortable ride (equally as fast), and embarrass unsuspecting ricers who think its a "v6 grand am", and to not be a "cop/ticket magnet" Go with the goat. Its basically a bmw feel with corvette power. The IRS rear handles like its on rails, and its fun to throw into a curve. If I want to daily drive a drag car, Id drive my f-body. Its all about personal preferance. Besides...why would you buy a GTO to cut and gut for a track car anyway?
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I had a '94 Formula(11.6 @118mph) that I drove everyday. Cheap and fast but after having my GTO now I would never go back to an F-body unless strictly for drag racing. My Formula had 410whp, stock suspension and BFG drag radials and I ran 11.6. Could never have done that with a GTO for the same $$$/mods.
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I own both.... a ls1 f-body and GTO. If you've never owned a gto...and your opinion is based off what you read on the internet...your a moron! Its all what YOU want to do with the car. If you want a full out drag toy...yeah, buy an f-body. Its a shitload cheaper, nobody is doubting that. If your wanting a hell of alot more comfortable ride (equally as fast), and embarrass unsuspecting ricers who think its a "v6 grand am", and to not be a "cop/ticket magnet" Go with the goat. Its basically a bmw feel with corvette power. The IRS rear handles like its on rails, and its fun to throw into a curve. If I want to daily drive a drag car, Id drive my f-body. Its all about personal preferance. Besides...why would you buy a GTO to cut and gut for a track car anyway?
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Sounds like your needs lean more towards a GTO. Whats your power goals? Track times? Lets talk important numbers lol. The F-Bodys are lighter and have a solid rear, then again the 10 bolt will need to be swapped. F-Bodys also come with the LS1 vs. the LS2's for the GTO. I think if your just looking to throw some parts on and have a quick DD...go with the GTO. If your looking to swap more parts but be faster and more possibility get the T/A. I've got a buddy on here whos a sponsor (Ryne @ CMS) His GTO's been as fast as 10.01 with a stock diff and drive line with hardened shafts. The LS2 will make more power just throwing parts on it, and will be more reliable. Not to sure about the body or elec. stuff. My 2 cents
thanks again for chipping in everybody, especially those of you who've owned both cars!
as for the IRS, how much power can they usually take? if your buddy's running 10s, I assume 5-600?
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I'm not so sure if the IRS is to bad. I think the shafts need to be replaced with stronger ones. I'm pretty sure he told me launching it wasnt to bad, its if it starts getting wheel-hop where things go south. Get the GTO, put a sts turbo on it and call it a day, or a 450-500+hp goat lol
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I'd go GTO. I love my Formula, but the rough ride and squeeks and rattles are getting old.
I'm sold on the better ride and interior of the GTO. And I actually LIKE they way it looks, for the same reason I like the look of the Formy over the T/A. I like low key, I have no need to have a car that screams "Hey! Look at me!!"
I actually was thinking of a GTO when I bought my Formula, but I couldn't afford a '05/06.
I'm sold on the better ride and interior of the GTO. And I actually LIKE they way it looks, for the same reason I like the look of the Formy over the T/A. I like low key, I have no need to have a car that screams "Hey! Look at me!!"
I actually was thinking of a GTO when I bought my Formula, but I couldn't afford a '05/06.
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I'm not so sure if the IRS is to bad. I think the shafts need to be replaced with stronger ones. I'm pretty sure he told me launching it wasnt to bad, its if it starts getting wheel-hop where things go south. Get the GTO, put a sts turbo on it and call it a day, or a 450-500+hp goat lol
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I'd got GTO. I love my Formula, but the rough ride and squeeks and rattles are getting old.
I'm sold on the better ride and interior of the GTO. And I actually LIKE they way it looks, for the same reason I like the look of the Formy over the T/A. I like low key, I have no need to have a car that screams "Hey! Look at me!!"
I actually was thinking of a GTO when I bought my Formula, but I couldn't afford a '05/06.
I'm sold on the better ride and interior of the GTO. And I actually LIKE they way it looks, for the same reason I like the look of the Formy over the T/A. I like low key, I have no need to have a car that screams "Hey! Look at me!!"
I actually was thinking of a GTO when I bought my Formula, but I couldn't afford a '05/06.
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Maybe it's just me, but I happen to like the "rough ride" and the handling of the fbody. Few suspension peices and your in business for road course, drag racing (whatever you want-hell they even drift well) and you don't have to put them on a diet either. I think they both have their ups and downs but there seem to be a lot of comments saying that "if you only are worried about a straight line, get the ws6" etc. The fbody has a LOT more to offer than just a straight line. Ask some of our suspension guys and closed circuit folk on here. We won't even mention what it has to offer in the "looks" department. That's my opinion of course. Both very nice rides.
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If your plan is for rear mount turbos the couple of 100lbs in savings on a F-body isn't going to mean very much. A guy I know has rear mounts on his GTO and has run in the 9s ... 10s all day long when he just had a stock botttom and stock cam.
As for me ... I don't see many f-bodys that can run NA with me. Better ride is a no brainer between the two.
As for me ... I don't see many f-bodys that can run NA with me. Better ride is a no brainer between the two.
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Hmmm, couple hundred pounds you say? Like as in "2 hundred pounds"? Hmmm, could have swore the goats had a little more meat than that when similarily equipped. Either way, I'd never trade my fourth gen for a goat. I would go with a cts if it was ride I wanted.
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