Quick question to all who do their own work on their car
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I think having a 2nd vehical to drive is what makes working on my Formula result with very little stress. I take pictures and used painters tape to mark what wires went were and plastic bags trying to keep everything organized. If I start to get overly pissed off I grab a beer watch some speed channel and leave it for another day.
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You can find just about all the information to do a job in a haynes book or online. A motor swap or trans swap is about the only thing I would not try to do myself. I just did front struts an alternator and a rear end swap. got pissed off alot but when the car was apart I new I had to finish or I was SOL. After the rear end swap I did pretty much by myself I decided that i too much fun and any other big job I would take it somewhere.
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I've got to say the best tool I've got is the internet. You can find anything you want with it. I'll have to agree with just walking away when you get frustraited and it is strange how the stars align when you return. That and... where the hell do all these extra nuts and bolts come from?
I enjoy working on my own car as frustraiting as it may be sometimes. It's a matter of pride, accomplishment and saving tons of dough on labor. It's not work work, you know? I'm no mechanic, but there's not much on a car that will intimidate me. The most frustraiting part is getting it done in time to pull out of the driveway and head to work.
I enjoy working on my own car as frustraiting as it may be sometimes. It's a matter of pride, accomplishment and saving tons of dough on labor. It's not work work, you know? I'm no mechanic, but there's not much on a car that will intimidate me. The most frustraiting part is getting it done in time to pull out of the driveway and head to work.
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I think as long as you complete it and everything works right it always turns out fine. Unless you hurt yourself or something of that nature. My thing now is I hate getting under a car on jack stands.
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Personally it is a pita working on my own stuff. But if I do it I know its been done right, and if not its easier figure out where I screwed up. The amount I save on labor keeps me doing most of my repairs. I saved $300 in labor on a rebuild. I spent maybe $25, it took me 2 days but it was well worth it. But back to the topic, I will never say that one was fun, but I'm glad I did it.
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i bitched and cursed at the #8 plug the first time i tryed to do it.
i tryed 3 times and couldent get it then later on that night i was under some "influance"
and it was easy lol.
i tryed 3 times and couldent get it then later on that night i was under some "influance"
and it was easy lol.
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There are a few things that keep me mostly sane working on the cars:
1) Multiple vehicles = no deadline
2) Always invite a freind to keep things from being too serious. Your friend is usually way less concerned about the project than you and at least provides comic relief or laughs at you when you're bleeding.
3) Research the **** out of what I'm doing it b4 I do it so it gets done right or doesn't become a mod I regret
i have really started to appreciate working on the newer cars now that I've been working on the '76 TA I bought...apparently a 35 yr old 55k mile car is still 35 yrs old....everything is frozen in place. A simple brake flush turned in to 3 twisted off bleed screws, a drum rebuild, new calipers, pads, machine rotors, bend a new brake line, etc etc. And replacing a sloppy idler arm turned in to doing all the steering linkage because that idler arm wasn't separating from the center link no matter how much I yelled at it.
In the end it makes you way more proud of your car I think.
1) Multiple vehicles = no deadline
2) Always invite a freind to keep things from being too serious. Your friend is usually way less concerned about the project than you and at least provides comic relief or laughs at you when you're bleeding.
3) Research the **** out of what I'm doing it b4 I do it so it gets done right or doesn't become a mod I regret
i have really started to appreciate working on the newer cars now that I've been working on the '76 TA I bought...apparently a 35 yr old 55k mile car is still 35 yrs old....everything is frozen in place. A simple brake flush turned in to 3 twisted off bleed screws, a drum rebuild, new calipers, pads, machine rotors, bend a new brake line, etc etc. And replacing a sloppy idler arm turned in to doing all the steering linkage because that idler arm wasn't separating from the center link no matter how much I yelled at it.
In the end it makes you way more proud of your car I think.
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If you don't find it enjoyable, then don't do it. If you have to do it, what's the point of bitching about it non-stop?
Slow down, do it right, and have a good attitude about it. Spending all your energy bitching is a good way to screw something up by not having your head all in the game.
Slow down, do it right, and have a good attitude about it. Spending all your energy bitching is a good way to screw something up by not having your head all in the game.
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I just finish doing my first heads and cam swap ever in my car. I wouldn't consider myself an expert with a wrench but all in all with the right information and tools it was relatively easy. The most frustrating part of the whole thing was getting the the rest of the exhaust lined up to the headers but that wasn't even that bad
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Does anyone else absolutely hate some aspects of installs even with friends, and then later on talk to your friends and mention how much of a fun time it was? Me and a buddy of mine tackled a longtube install as our first venture into the modification world and we literally complained the whole way! Now that we talk about it we just laugh at how much fun it was.
Just wondering if anyone else had similar scenarios, feel free to post them.
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Just wondering if anyone else had similar scenarios, feel free to post them.
Thanks
Justin
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I had a friend over to help with a head swap on sunday after working all night saturday night. It took us about 10 hrs. Once put back together, the alternator wasn't charging and I was pooped. I pulled it and cleaned the power steering fluid off and it still didn't charge. I ended up being up for 30 hrs and slept for 13 1/2 hours. As soon as I got up I pulled it and had it tested. It turned out that the regulator wire was fubar. I spliced the wire and all is good.
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Well... I was just IMing with a buddy of mine at work and am copying my story in here... Feel free to laugh and point fingers. LOL.
I had a simple job... Swap 4 wheels (got a set of C5 factory ones in brand new condition from a 99 vette with brand new tires, all for $250, ka-ching), replace front rotors and pads and replace rear pads.
Things that went wrong...
1) Car fell off the jack. I only had time to change one rear tire before I had to leave home, and I figured I could leave it on the jack for 3 minutes, just enough to take off the old wheel and put on the new one. Well thankfully I tightened by hand all of the lugnuts and as I did the last one, the car just slid off the jack - which broke. Cheap piece of Harbor Freight junk.
2) I accidentally loosened the brake line going to the caliper in a rush to remove it, letting air into the system, and dismissing it as "ok"
3) Three days later I see my tire is half way on the ground. I carefully drive it to my parents'
garage, 2 streets over. Took the wheel off, dunked it in a pail with water and thankfully it was only an untightened valve stem that was leaking air. Thank God.
4) When I dismounted the tire to dunk it in the tank of water I placed the jack stand under the panhard bar, because I thought it was a good place to put it. I bent the ******* thing! Why? - Amateur!!
5) So, now I'm driving with air in my brake system and a bent panhard bar. Neither of which is a huge deal really, but y'know....
However, I bought a UMI single adjustable panhard bar (now that I had a good excuse!) to replace the bent stock one. I also bought the 1/2" 650 ft/lbs Earthquake impact gun at Harbor Freight (actually got really good reviews), because I am sick and tired of having to manually removing the lugnuts. I bought a new jack as well, this time a Craftsman, since the first POS one broke. All together I spent $100+$75+$55 = $230
Now, I have to bleed the brakes - which I've never done before, although I've already read enough to have no problem doing it. Which, if you think about it, not a bad idea, given that the car has 44k miles and the brake system has never been flushed
Oh wait - I forgot the funniest one!!
6) I bought two rear brake pad sets. I posted a question on LS1Tech and read reviews on brake pads and finally settled on the Hawk HPS pads for the front. When I opened them up, ready to put them on, I realized that I got the rear ones twice! I didn't even open the Amazon box before to notice. Of course, nowhere in Rochester can you actually get those, so I ended up going to Advance Auto and getting the Wearever Golds...
So now - I am still convinced that it would be more expensive had I had a brake job done somewhere else (probably at least $300, right?)... but I definitely didn't save too much money.
Although, if you think about it - I got an aftermarket Panhard bar, I got a new jack, I got a new 650 ft/lbs impact gun. And wasted/spent/enjoyed a lot of time outside, working on my car, and managed to stay alive to laugh at myself. lol.
I had a simple job... Swap 4 wheels (got a set of C5 factory ones in brand new condition from a 99 vette with brand new tires, all for $250, ka-ching), replace front rotors and pads and replace rear pads.
Things that went wrong...
1) Car fell off the jack. I only had time to change one rear tire before I had to leave home, and I figured I could leave it on the jack for 3 minutes, just enough to take off the old wheel and put on the new one. Well thankfully I tightened by hand all of the lugnuts and as I did the last one, the car just slid off the jack - which broke. Cheap piece of Harbor Freight junk.
2) I accidentally loosened the brake line going to the caliper in a rush to remove it, letting air into the system, and dismissing it as "ok"
3) Three days later I see my tire is half way on the ground. I carefully drive it to my parents'
garage, 2 streets over. Took the wheel off, dunked it in a pail with water and thankfully it was only an untightened valve stem that was leaking air. Thank God.
4) When I dismounted the tire to dunk it in the tank of water I placed the jack stand under the panhard bar, because I thought it was a good place to put it. I bent the ******* thing! Why? - Amateur!!
5) So, now I'm driving with air in my brake system and a bent panhard bar. Neither of which is a huge deal really, but y'know....
However, I bought a UMI single adjustable panhard bar (now that I had a good excuse!) to replace the bent stock one. I also bought the 1/2" 650 ft/lbs Earthquake impact gun at Harbor Freight (actually got really good reviews), because I am sick and tired of having to manually removing the lugnuts. I bought a new jack as well, this time a Craftsman, since the first POS one broke. All together I spent $100+$75+$55 = $230
Now, I have to bleed the brakes - which I've never done before, although I've already read enough to have no problem doing it. Which, if you think about it, not a bad idea, given that the car has 44k miles and the brake system has never been flushed
Oh wait - I forgot the funniest one!!
6) I bought two rear brake pad sets. I posted a question on LS1Tech and read reviews on brake pads and finally settled on the Hawk HPS pads for the front. When I opened them up, ready to put them on, I realized that I got the rear ones twice! I didn't even open the Amazon box before to notice. Of course, nowhere in Rochester can you actually get those, so I ended up going to Advance Auto and getting the Wearever Golds...
So now - I am still convinced that it would be more expensive had I had a brake job done somewhere else (probably at least $300, right?)... but I definitely didn't save too much money.
Although, if you think about it - I got an aftermarket Panhard bar, I got a new jack, I got a new 650 ft/lbs impact gun. And wasted/spent/enjoyed a lot of time outside, working on my car, and managed to stay alive to laugh at myself. lol.
Last edited by flymybird; 09-08-2010 at 02:26 PM.
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For me it boils down to the fact that there is something about when someone ask who built your motor and you say "I did".....There is just alot of pride that goes along with that and in an age where it seems like everyone has just gotten lazy that kind of satisfaction is few and far between.