View Poll Results: Should I swap from auto to manual? (read below b4 voting)
row your own damn gears
36
63.16%
keep it the way it is, you'll thank me later
21
36.84%
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6-speed swap....yes or no?
12-23-2011, 09:48 AM
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Sounds just like the situation I was in about a month ago! I'll tell you right now I went with a t56 and I've never had so much fun with my car before, also I went with a Monster stage 2 clutch and lightweight flywheel and my car feels crazy fast!
12-23-2011, 10:10 AM
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It all depends on what you want to use it for. You say you want to get out of drag racing and corner carve/drive it on the street. I would do the t56 swap because it is more fun on the street and in corners. Plus you can get the complete swap for less than a quality auto rebuild.
12-23-2011, 12:26 PM
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I am aware that the 4L60E can be built to handle some abuse.
But for those of you who have had multiple 4L60Es **** the bed, why the hell would you build the same shitty platform over again?
After mine lets go the first time, I'm gunna pull it and it's not going back in.
Do it once, do it right.
But for those of you who have had multiple 4L60Es **** the bed, why the hell would you build the same shitty platform over again?
After mine lets go the first time, I'm gunna pull it and it's not going back in.
Do it once, do it right.
12-23-2011, 06:40 PM
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I am aware that the 4L60E can be built to handle some abuse. But for those of you who have had multiple 4L60Es **** the bed, why the hell would you build the same shitty platform over again? After mine lets go the first time, I'm gunna pull it and it's not going back in. Do it once, do it right.
12-23-2011, 08:36 PM
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MattxFatal you couldn't be more wrong on the built 4L60e's. The guys a Circle D in Houston have built what is known to be the almost bullet proof 4L60e. And it's not a shitty platform. A 4L60e is a 700-R4 that is electronic. It's a time tested tranny from GM.
12-24-2011, 01:43 AM
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Doing it once and doing it right would be having a 4L60e built by a reputable shop that specializes in hi-performance builds of this transmission. A lot of guys have had fantastic results using sponsors on this board. An M6 swap is no better solution ... hydraulic issues, clutch problems and failures are common even with with the best aftermarket setups - and breakage of T56 hard parts is not exactly unheard of. My take is that there more headaches are reported on the M6 forum than the A4 forum.
12-25-2011, 03:39 PM
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If you are more into drag racing keep the auto...it will give you better results at the track by far and be more consistent....
If you want 28mpgs on the highway get a 6 speed.
Rwhp for Rwhp, car for car ,the auto setup will always have the advantage and many times an auto with 20 less hp will still run better times.
If you want 28mpgs on the highway get a 6 speed.
Rwhp for Rwhp, car for car ,the auto setup will always have the advantage and many times an auto with 20 less hp will still run better times.
12-25-2011, 04:11 PM
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Most Everyone makes good points here but the guy really wants a stick and IMO is what he should go with. In an old muscle car doing a LS swap for fun and cruising I would go with the manual swap too! I have a 00 T/A M6 and a 68 Camaro SS396 w/M21 and wouldnt have it any other way. Now if I was gonna go racing with either I would only use an automatic built up w/stall.
12-25-2011, 05:10 PM
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He does? I didn't catch that part. Looks to me like his post is very clear about him just not wanting to deal with transmission issues any longer. Like many here have outlined, going to an M6 setup is no free ride on the hassle front, there are potential issues and hassles with both builds. Personally, I'd put my faith in a *properly* built auto from a good shop plus a good quality TC, for a street OR race car. But either can still have issues.
And don't even bother trying to argue which is more "fun", because that is a purely subjective, personal decision for which there is no universally correct or incorrect answer - it ALWAYS comes down to preference. The majority opinion doesn't matter, your opinion doesn't matter, and my opinion doesn't matter. Only one that matters is the person that has to drive the car.
Manual vs Auto "which is better" debate threads are pointless and don't belong in any sort of general or specific tech sections. As long as the topic is reliability of one versus the other, then this will stay, but anything beyond that is not welcome - so please keep it on track.
And don't even bother trying to argue which is more "fun", because that is a purely subjective, personal decision for which there is no universally correct or incorrect answer - it ALWAYS comes down to preference. The majority opinion doesn't matter, your opinion doesn't matter, and my opinion doesn't matter. Only one that matters is the person that has to drive the car.
Manual vs Auto "which is better" debate threads are pointless and don't belong in any sort of general or specific tech sections. As long as the topic is reliability of one versus the other, then this will stay, but anything beyond that is not welcome - so please keep it on track.
12-27-2011, 01:22 AM
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I'm actually heavily considering the swap to an M6. Primarily because my tran's is almost at the end of its life span with over 200+k miles on it and because I constantly find my right hand resting on the shifter like I should be doing something with it. 
... I don't take her to the track and race anymore because she's my DD and I can't afford to break something prematurely these days, especially with a lovely mortgage over my head. ..
... Assuming that a T56 is already in hand, how much extra world the additional parts run? What's also the AVERAGE for labor on such a project? ...
... I don't take her to the track and race anymore because she's my DD and I can't afford to break something prematurely these days, especially with a lovely mortgage over my head. ..... Assuming that a T56 is already in hand, how much extra world the additional parts run? What's also the AVERAGE for labor on such a project? ...
12-27-2011, 03:04 AM
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I'm a doorman at a bar and my co worker just asked if I was right after I read the 3-5K part! .. Apparently my face showed my shock! ... I'm honestly going to assume that 5k is if I don't already have the T56. A buddy of mine a few months ago said it should be around 2-2500. ... I think 3k sounds like the number. BUT, I also dont already have the T56 so my point is slightly mute at this point!
... FML... Maybe I should just buy a Stage 2 from PerformaBuilt, a new shotgun and call it a day.
12-27-2011, 04:39 AM
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Do it yourself. Read and follow directions. It is a bolt in operation anyone should be able to do with basic hand tools. I've seen t56 pullouts on ebay for $1500 to $2000 and comes with everything.
