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Old 07-26-2013, 01:46 AM
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When you get ready "Bluecat" is an excellent tuner down in Ashland, Kentucky. Jr. totaled a 900 WHP Camaro convertible out on Corridor G last month. He had 2yrs. and $25k in the motor. Basically, he had it wide open in 5th gear. Thank goodness he lived. They had to look to find him. The car disintegrated.
Yea bluecat is the one that tuned my last f-body and is (hopefully) gonna tune my cobalt ss. And was that the one that was all over the news? A little south of southridge? I seen the pics from that and WOW im glad he was ok. I actually had a pic of the car saved
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Yep that was him, out of the hospital in 72 hrs. Lot of road rash and a mean gash behind his right eye. Sounds as though you like to pound the pavement. We live up on Montrose. Lot of guys go out to Quaker Lube on Thurs. night and some go out on the Corridor to show the bikes and cars off. Good luck with your build.
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Thanks man. We'll definately have to meet up. If u havent already, wvmotorsports is a good local forum to join up on
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So here is my mod list collected so far

LS2 243's with patriot valve springs
Torquer V2 Cam
1 3/4" LT's
O/R Y
LS6 Intake
Smooth Bellow
SLP Lid w K&N Filter

Any other mods that I need before installing? Larger TB and MAF?
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Yeah, I'm on WVStreets.co . Let me ask you something. Are the LS2 243s the same as the LS6 346 243s? There is a difference I feel because the LS6 Head cylinder is smaller than an LS2 Head cylinder. LS6 is a 346 block, LS2 is about 368 block. What other parts are you trying to collect?
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I think the LS2 requires a 4.0 cylinder. The LS6 (346) uses a smaller cylinder.
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Originally Posted by pea_jay
So here is my mod list collected so far

LS2 243's with patriot valve springs
Torquer V2 Cam
1 3/4" LT's
O/R Y
LS6 Intake
Smooth Bellow
SLP Lid w K&N Filter

Any other mods that I need before installing? Larger TB and MAF?
Go with the bigger 1 7/8" headers (will only see gains, no downsides, plus you don't have to swap headers if you want to make big power later on). - wish i would have done this...
Forget the K&N filter, it has to be greased and more often than not the grease gets on the MAF sensor wires and causes issues. A normal paper filter is more than fine and you won't see a difference in power.
Smooth bellow is also not worth it unless you like the looks.
Id also suggest ditching the flowmaster as it will sound like a farm truck with the headers on, and rob you of quite a bit of easy power over other aftermarket catbacks. If you want to go cheap Id suggest a Hooker catback.
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Originally Posted by spordee1
I think the LS2 requires a 4.0 cylinder. The LS6 (346) uses a smaller cylinder.
So will the 243's I got from the Trailblazer SS wont work with my ls1 block?
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Go with the bigger 1 7/8" headers (will only see gains, no downsides, plus you don't have to swap headers if you want to make big power later on). - wish i would have done this...
Forget the K&N filter, it has to be greased and more often than not the grease gets on the MAF sensor wires and causes issues. A normal paper filter is more than fine and you won't see a difference in power.
Smooth bellow is also not worth it unless you like the looks.
Id also suggest ditching the flowmaster as it will sound like a farm truck with the headers on, and rob you of quite a bit of easy power over other aftermarket catbacks. If you want to go cheap Id suggest a Hooker catback.
Im trying to stay away from that raspy sound that my last fbody had. Would you suggest a larger TB and MAF for the ls6 intake?
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thx, I joined WVMotorsports. I do not want to make the call on your 243 Heads. Trickflow Heads performs a little stronger. You should be able to trade your LS2 Heads for the 346 LS6 Heads.
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Well first things first, I ordered the 99-02 knock sensors with harness since im throwing a code for one and may as well upgrade it when I put on the ls6 intake
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The LS2 heads will work fine. All 243/799 heads are the same even the one's that come on some of the later model 5.3's, the only difference is the LS6 heads have light weight hollow stem valves. If those patriot springs are used unless you are 100% sure that they are very low mileage (like less than 10,000 miles) I'd replace them, a broken spring could ruin your entire motor. A Brian Tooley dual spring kit is only $220, I'd call that cheap insurance. And one more thing, you'll need some center bolt valve covers and coil brackets, 98's have perimeter bolt valve covers and the coils bolt directly to them.
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Originally Posted by Fry_
The LS2 heads will work fine. All 243/799 heads are the same even the one's that come on some of the later model 5.3's, the only difference is the LS6 heads have light weight hollow stem valves. If those patriot springs are used unless you are 100% sure that they are very low mileage (like less than 10,000 miles) I'd replace them, a broken spring could ruin your entire motor. A Brian Tooley dual spring kit is only $220, I'd call that cheap insurance. And one more thing, you'll need some center bolt valve covers and coil brackets, 98's have perimeter bolt valve covers and the coils bolt directly to them.
Heads actually came with the valve covers and hardware. The valve springs actually have under 2400 miles
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Another question.....After the install of just the ls6 intake and hi-flow lid, It should be ok without a new tune shouldnt it? At least until I get the rest of the mods installed?
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I might sound dumb, but what is the benefit with new motor mounts?
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Pretty sure its to keep the headers from banging around because of worn out factory mounts
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not sure what gears you have but if it was me i would stuff some gear in it.
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OP, doing the work yourself? If not, don't forget to add labor to the expense list. Also I would personally get rid of the Patriot springs and pick up the Brian Tooley ones.
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not sure what gears you have but if it was me i would stuff some gear in it.
He has an M6 and since he stated it was near stock, it would have 3.42 gears.
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Originally Posted by pea_jay
Another question.....After the install of just the ls6 intake and hi-flow lid, It should be ok without a new tune shouldnt it? At least until I get the rest of the mods installed?
If you are doing the LS6 manifold, should do the LS6 valley cover also. It's a bit better oiling system than the stock PCV setup.

It should be ok without a tune, just don't romp on it.



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