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whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there

just purchased another ls1 and this will be my first time truly modding
of course on the list
full exahust
cam/heads
intake/lid
new rearend just to stay safe

what else?
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Originally Posted by possessedsaint
whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there

just purchased another ls1 and this will be my first time truly modding
of course on the list
full exahust
cam/heads
intake/lid
new rearend just to stay safe

what else?
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M6 or A4??
Whats your budget??
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m6
havnt really thought about the budget.....of course i will try to minimize....most parts i will probably try to find 2nd hand
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The stock bottom end can take around 550 rwhp very safely, so you can do more than heads and cam. A little bit of boost or nitrous would do the trick
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as i said naturally aspirated ....no spray or forced induction.

right now im looking at ;
lid
long tube headers
true duals out the back
CAI
ls6 intake or FAST intake
ported tb
ported ls6 heads/tfs 215/prc 215 *one of those
UD crank pulley
gears
tune
ms3/ms4 or other large cam
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Fast 92/92
Trick flow 215s
We have a custom 4" intake setup that will make the most power from lid to tb
Custom cam
tune (we have custom tuning options)
Higher quality ARH/Kooks headers
Really any exhaust you want. SLP LM or equivalent will work just as well as true duals and be less $$$ and less hassle

11.3: 1 cr and possibly some 390 gears and a stall or nice clutch
That will likely make the most power on pump gas and be fun fun fun.
We have all those options available.

If you are doing this on a budget, I would stay on that line and get 1-2 things at a time, but stay on one track. You will nearly always get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by possessedsaint
as i said naturally aspirated ....no spray or forced induction.

right now im looking at ;
lid
long tube headers
true duals out the back
CAI
ls6 intake or FAST intake
ported tb
ported ls6 heads/tfs 215/prc 215 *one of those
UD crank pulley
gears
tune
ms3/ms4 or other large cam

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Fast 92/92
Trick flow 215s
We have a custom 4" intake setup that will make the most power from lid to tb
Custom cam
tune (we have custom tuning options)
Higher quality ARH/Kooks headers
Really any exhaust you want. SLP LM or equivalent will work just as well as true duals and be less $$$ and less hassle

11.3: 1 cr and possibly some 390 gears and a stall or nice clutch
That will likely make the most power on pump gas and be fun fun fun.
We have all those options available.

If you are doing this on a budget, I would stay on that line and get 1-2 things at a time, but stay on one track. You will nearly always get what you pay for.
so basically...the parts i listed anything else i should be changing... i mean if i got up to enough power i would go 9" rear...but i dont find that necessary at this point
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The 10 bolt may be the weak point, but it will really depend on if you expect on 5k clutch dumps. The manual trans setups alot harder on the rears than the autos seem to be. An upgrade to a 12 bolt would not be a bad idea, but you can possibly get along with a good set of motive gears and a rear girdle kit.

With what was normally listed, you could be around 440 rwhp conservatively. Before all the bashing starts and thread links, we always like to estimate conservatively so we can all be surprised when it makes more. The difference will be in the TQ you make with the higher quality parts and diff head, cam, exhaust designs.
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heres whats always asked. are you looking for a peak number or a strong running street and track car?

pullies and an EWP should also add you a little more since youre probably trying to get the max out of your build.
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Underdrive is the common mod, but an electric water pump, esp for the price, is prob the last mod people like to do due to possible problems with not knowing if it is working. Plus they usually get the wrong one lol. Just because it says race doesnt mean its good on the street. And the street version is quite a bit more $$$ too.
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They are good, but pricey. We can make a harness that will turn on a warning light if the pump doesnt work. As an option.
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Originally Posted by coSPEED2
They are good, but pricey. We can make a harness that will turn on a warning light if the pump doesnt work. As an option.
are they known to fail or malfunction? guess i wont be getting one.
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Originally Posted by possessedsaint
whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there

just purchased another ls1 and this will be my first time truly modding
of course on the list
full exahust
cam/heads
intake/lid
new rearend just to stay safe

what else?
what im saying is other than what i have listed what else do i need to change to maximize my hp on a stock block
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They are not KNOWN to, but if they do, you will likely not know until it is too late. We do not advertise the harness, but we can have one made as a fail safe to let you know.

I did not mean to give you the wrong idea. They are super high quality and the better part is you can color match them etc.
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Originally Posted by possessedsaint
what im saying is other than what i have listed what else do i need to change to maximize my hp on a stock block
To answer that question, you will need a quality fuel system and properly sized fuel injectors. Larger maf. If auto you will need a built trans. If manual you will def need a better clutch and trans upgrades.

After that will be suspension. Then brakes.
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Originally Posted by possessedsaint
whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there

just purchased another ls1 and this will be my first time truly modding
of course on the list
full exahust
cam/heads
intake/lid
new rearend just to stay safe

what else?
The shop I go to the highest heads/cam ls1 6 speed car did 478 on their mustang dyno. Pretty sure it had AFR heads, custom grind big cam, fast 92, long tubes and a cut out. Probably through the 10 bolt I'd imagine.
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[QUOTE=possessedsaint;18053890]whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there[/QUOTE

Well . . . ( This is intended to be funny )

Step 1 - Completely disassemble motor.

Step 2 - Discard all parts, except for engine block.

Step 3 - Remove $10,000 - $15,000 from your bank account.

Step 4 - Start shopping.

Step 5 - Regret steps 1-4, once your realize that a 408 LQ9 Stroker would have only cost about $800 more ( buy a new block from Summit or look at the LQ9 short-blocks from Texas Speed ), given you a lot more power, and would have been much more durable, while only adding about 60 lbs. to the car.

How much HP ? Right up to the point where the LS1 block fails or you run out of money !

LOL !
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[QUOTE=ez2cdave;18061582]
Originally Posted by possessedsaint
whats the most HP i can expect to get naturally aspirated and still keep a stock block ? and what mods are necessary to get there[/QUOTE

Well . . . ( This is intended to be funny )

Step 1 - Completely disassemble motor.

Step 2 - Discard all parts, except for engine block.

Step 3 - Remove $10,000 - $15,000 from your bank account.

Step 4 - Start shopping.

Step 5 - Regret steps 1-4, once your realize that a 408 LQ9 Stroker would have only cost about $800 more ( buy a new block from Summit or look at the LQ9 short-blocks from Texas Speed ), given you a lot more power, and would have been much more durable, while only adding about 60 lbs. to the car.

How much HP ? Right up to the point where the LS1 block fails or you run out of money !

LOL !

really not a bad idea..... 3500-4000 on mods to a stock ls1 block...or spend the same amount on a 408 stroker......
but then again you would still have to get new cylinder heads etc. or do those come completely assembled...ready to drop in


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