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09-16-2006, 02:07 AM
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Solid proof I'm having an argument with my friend who says the 98-02 F-body does not have the same engine as the 97-04 Base corvette.
Is there any magazine article and picture that compare cars to have proof to him that there the sane exact engines. Right down to the nuts and bolts, except for the camshaft of course.
Is there any magazine article and picture that compare cars to have proof to him that there the sane exact engines. Right down to the nuts and bolts, except for the camshaft of course.
09-17-2006, 02:21 AM
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Just slap the **** out of him. It is not worth getting into it with someone that dense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine
That might help if you look under applications, it has both 97-04 Corvette and 98-02 Camaro/Firebird's listed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine
That might help if you look under applications, it has both 97-04 Corvette and 98-02 Camaro/Firebird's listed.
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09-17-2006, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by StoleIt
Just slap the **** out of him. It is not worth getting into it with someone that dense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine
That might help if you look under applications, it has both 97-04 Corvette and 98-02 Camaro/Firebird's listed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine
That might help if you look under applications, it has both 97-04 Corvette and 98-02 Camaro/Firebird's listed.
09-17-2006, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cumbias
I'm having an argument with my friend who says the 98-02 F-body does not have the same engine as the 97-04 Base corvette.
Is there any magazine article and picture that compare cars to have proof to him that there the sane exact engines. Right down to the nuts and bolts, except for the camshaft of course.
Is there any magazine article and picture that compare cars to have proof to him that there the sane exact engines. Right down to the nuts and bolts, except for the camshaft of course.
Indeed they are very very similar. But the TB setup is different and also the Corvettes lack of EGR. So far I've never found out why the Corvette didn't have EGR while the Fbody's of the same year did. There must be some reason for it though.
But in simple language an Ls1 is an Ls1, if it isn't then it's something else like a Lt1 or LQ4 or so on.
So if your friend can't grasp that simple logic there really is no hope.
09-17-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6son
It's on LS1tech somewhere... ****. It has a completely stock T/A dyno, and a stock Vette dyno, and the T/A actually put down like 5 more horsepower. They even have the same cam. If I can find it, I'll post up the link.
09-17-2006, 09:15 PM
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His logic is, "My dad works at the cadillac dealership, he works with those cars and he says they don't got the same engine", by the way his dad does the paint jobs doesn't have any formal training on autimotive tech, and he made this conclusion through a friend that told him the only similarities is the engine block. His friend was probably talking about the Z06 but like father like son, they both are dense. I showed them this website and he stated " they say that to glamorize their cars, anybody can make anything up and posted".
Next time he brings it up I'll show him the article on Wikipedia, if he still doesn't grasp it, the article on the 98 camaro on Muscle Car Club website clearly states the Corvette's LS1 being put in the 98-2002 Camaro, if that doesn't help, no use in fighting it.
Next time he brings it up I'll show him the article on Wikipedia, if he still doesn't grasp it, the article on the 98 camaro on Muscle Car Club website clearly states the Corvette's LS1 being put in the 98-2002 Camaro, if that doesn't help, no use in fighting it.
09-18-2006, 12:02 AM
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In my experience, people who work at Dealerships are just as dense as people who know nothing about cars. Difference is a person who knows nothing about cars usually admits that they don't know jack. A salesman will keep BSing until he gets paid.
09-18-2006, 08:53 AM
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ya there is no dif. b/t the 2 cars and i saw the dyno also with the vette and f-body i believe the vette made 285HP and f-body was like 290 or something like that. unbelievable never would have thought that but what make the vette and the f-body dif. is that the weight dif thats what makes the vette faster. and the guy prob thinks there dif engines bc the vette has the lil plastic covers over the valve covers and fuel rails and hes like ya thats totally dif. freaking DA 
people these days. and just bc you work at a dealership doesn't mean you know anymore than any1 else.
ya there is no dif. b/t the 2 cars and i saw the dyno also with the vette and f-body i believe the vette made 285HP and f-body was like 290 or something like that. unbelievable never would have thought that but what make the vette and the f-body dif. is that the weight dif thats what makes the vette faster. and the guy prob thinks there dif engines bc the vette has the lil plastic covers over the valve covers and fuel rails and hes like ya thats totally dif. freaking DA people these days. and just bc you work at a dealership doesn't mean you know anymore than any1 else. 
09-18-2006, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel Chicken
you need smarter friends.
09-21-2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1W66
Another Mr Knowledgeable, 
(knows a liitle about Everything and a lot about Nothing)
(knows a liitle about Everything and a lot about Nothing)
