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Old 01-14-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdsz
I hope you're right , but with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, I wouldn't bet on it. If the legislature swings much further to the left I'm afraid they will have all of us on bicycles just like in China, within about 10 years. Heaven help us racers if queen Hillary gets in, we'll be on roller skates.
I would start a revolution before I'd allow the government to take away my cars.
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Hmm is Pontiac still in the game? I know from word of mouth that there NEVER supposed to come back with the Firebird but what else has Pontiac got up there sleeves?
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Originally Posted by Screamin'Chicken
Hmm is Pontiac still in the game? I know from word of mouth that there NEVER supposed to come back with the Firebird but what else has Pontiac got up there sleeves?
Next gen GTO......
Old 01-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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Isn't that going to be on a completely different platform due to US safety regulations or something to that extent?
Old 01-14-2007, 06:24 PM
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These cars really meet you definition of muscle car?

Cars that cost 35k+?

I went car shopping for a new "muscle car" a little over a year ago. Had 25,000 in cash to spend. Drove every car I could get my hands on. I bought my 1998 Formula. The only thing comperable as far as pin you in the seat torque, and fun to drive cost 61,000$(saleen mustang).

Give me a big v8 for 22,500 like the 4th gens, and I'll call it a muscle car.

In the history of the automobile, there has never been a shortage of over priced fast cars.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
I would start a revolution before I'd allow the government to take away my cars.
I'm with you on that one man. I'll be the last guy you see in a freakin hybrid, that's for sure. I'm not worried about our cars going away in my lifetime, probably not even in my kids' generation.
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Originally Posted by PowerShift408
I'm not worried about our cars going away in my lifetime...
I agree. Even if/after they do start making another type of fuel mainstream, it'll be a LONG time before all the gas powered cars are cycled out of the system.
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im kinda glad the HP wars are back. I can buy a newer muscle car or vette when i get outta college and keep the camaro as a cruiser only so i can pull it out 30 years down the road and it still only have 40k on the odo. perfect plan. Also about pontiac, they're gonna come back the game hard the rumor has it. GM wants to make all pontiacs RWD. They're considering bringing the Holden Commadore over as the next gen Grand Prix. That'd be freaking sweet. Then add in the next gen GTO and we're set.
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so true
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Originally Posted by Trust
Horsepower wars are back, just sucks I won't be able to keep up!!!
I'm already behind.
Old 01-16-2007, 01:24 PM
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we have alredy been deep into the hp wars
heads that were considered race type are found on STOCK SUV's now
Old 01-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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no..it sucks when the legislature decides to regulate the stock hp comming from cars

edit: and if we all are forced to drive hybrid cars....i will be hard pressed to suck out 500hp from my hybrid! =D
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Originally Posted by Pharm0r
no..it sucks when the legislature decides to regulate the stock hp comming from cars

edit: and if we all are forced to drive hybrid cars....i will be hard pressed to suck out 500hp from my hybrid! =D


You mean emissions regs? No limit on HP that I've ever heard of, just limits on average fleet fuel mileage and emissions.

PS. I'll be keeping my gas powered cars as long as gas is sold. No liberal bastard is taking my personal fleet away.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6


You mean emissions regs? No limit on HP that I've ever heard of, just limits on average fleet fuel mileage and emissions.
sorry, i mean if it ever happens...which the way its going...prolly will eventually
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For the reason of Government control, we need to take use of the oil while it is here and drive as fast as possible while it is around. gotta love the HP wars are back on.
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
For the reason of Government control, we need to take use of the oil while it is here and drive as fast as possible while it is around. gotta love the HP wars are back on.
next time im stopped for speeding that is exactilly what ima say
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you guys need to stop flipping out about the oil thing. oil isnt gonna run out, cheap oil will run out eventually. but it will always be around. im not gonna say oil controls government but it definitely is the most persuasive lobbyist. there will never be anything to jeopardize oil use in the US so dont worry about it.
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I say keep the power coming. We got compact cars and family sedans running times that cars from the mid-late '60s would be proud to run, mainstream SUVs and minivans not too far behind, and our sports/supercars... well we all know how fast they are becoming. It's only gonna go up from here, no matter what the fuel source is. There's an electric car out now that does 0-60 in about 4s, and is supposed to handle like a dream. Now, it is like $80k, and VERY limited production... but atleast it's a start.
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Originally Posted by Swang
They're considering bringing the Holden Commadore over as the next gen Grand Prix. That'd be freaking sweet. Then add in the next gen GTO and we're set.
What about the firebird tho? The camaro and firebird are like brothers. It bothers me a bit That the camaro will comeout without its firebird companion. But I guess the General wanted to keep the camaro sales really high and the firebird would only subtract from thoes sales....
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the sound of an electric motor would suck....i like my gas powered engines better....i think even the ricers would agree you couldnt put a fart can on an electric car



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