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Originally Posted by RussStang
Never seen a stock coupe weigh in near 3550lbs, and never will. What kind of options would push the weight up that high? The Fbodies aren't like the Benz in question. Fully loaded they didn't come with anything that mind blowing, just leather, a Cd changer, and a bunch of other useless crap.
Originally Posted by RussStang
No one suggested the average LS1 was in the 3300lb range. The strippers are though. According to this guy's webpage, the autos are lighter than the manuals.
Scroll down and it shows the curb weight of the auto LS1's at 3,517 and the manuals at 3,495. I picked up the stock torque converter after it was removed and it was pretty heavy. I think the TC alone is why autos would be a tad heavier.
Originally Posted by RussStang
Not everyone pulls there spare tire and jack out. I bet most guys on here still have them left in. I know I do.
Originally Posted by RussStang
See post 50 and 52
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...wk+curb+weight
Post 50 is on a SLP Firehawk, probably regarded as one of the heaviest fbodies. Again, nowhere near what you mentioned. There is more info out there if you search.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...wk+curb+weight
Post 50 is on a SLP Firehawk, probably regarded as one of the heaviest fbodies. Again, nowhere near what you mentioned. There is more info out there if you search.
Originally Posted by Evans752
Mine weight right at 3650lbs with me out of the car. But that was with a set of drag lights on the car and every thing else on the car fully loaded (leather t-tops air ect). NO weight reduction. Hope this helps.
http://www.modernracer.com/pontiacfi...ransamws6.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2002/...ons/index.html
http://www.texas-som.com/specs.html
http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=2
http://www.geocities.com/miner_49/TransAm.htm
http://www.supercarx.com/articles/sp...ons/camaro.htm
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewvehicle.php?id=190
http://www.severnmotorsports.com/2002camaross1le.htm
http://www.nctd.com/review-final.cfm...&ReviewID=1157
It appears that the information is out there for those who search.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
Here are more links that all call the F-bodies in the 3400-3550 range.
http://www.modernracer.com/pontiacfi...ransamws6.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2002/...ons/index.html
http://www.texas-som.com/specs.html
http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=2
http://www.geocities.com/miner_49/TransAm.htm
http://www.supercarx.com/articles/sp...ons/camaro.htm
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewvehicle.php?id=190
http://www.severnmotorsports.com/2002camaross1le.htm
http://www.nctd.com/review-final.cfm...&ReviewID=1157
It appears that the information is out there for those who search.
http://www.modernracer.com/pontiacfi...ransamws6.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2002/...ons/index.html
http://www.texas-som.com/specs.html
http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=2
http://www.geocities.com/miner_49/TransAm.htm
http://www.supercarx.com/articles/sp...ons/camaro.htm
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewvehicle.php?id=190
http://www.severnmotorsports.com/2002camaross1le.htm
http://www.nctd.com/review-final.cfm...&ReviewID=1157
It appears that the information is out there for those who search.
That's so ******* gay. A website states info and all of a sudden it's fact.
Jesus Christ.......if I believed everything I read on the internet John Kerry is President, I'm an internet billionaire, a stock 02 Mustang GT is a sub 11 sec. car, and Jesus will be back this year.
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Give it up, let him believe what he wants. He doesn't want to do a forum search, for, you know, real actual weights done on scale, so let him magazine race all he wants. I am done arguing about this.
3650lbs Yeah, ok. Now a loaded fbody is weighing in at what an 03 Cobra weighs?
3650lbs Yeah, ok. Now a loaded fbody is weighing in at what an 03 Cobra weighs?
#46
I daily drive my car, nothing is removed from it.
I've weighed it on a track scale and the recycling station scale on a regular basis. Since they're within 50lbs of each other, I'll gather that it sounds about right that my car is in the 3400lb range.
Modded though, I think the car has gained a bit of weight, I'll be dropping off stuff to the recycling depot in the next week, and I may just as well use my z28 to be sure.
I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that these cars hover in the 3400 lb range. I find it hard to believe that a fully optioned car (power everything, leather, cd changer etc) would be 3600lb on it's own. Considering I have power windows, leather, power drivers seat and no cd changer, that tossing in that changer and the spare will gain/save a lot. Doubtful.
It's a big jump to add 300lbs of weight from a stripper car to a fully optioned car. Aside from the convertables, the "weight" gain is highly improbable for the options listed.
I've weighed it on a track scale and the recycling station scale on a regular basis. Since they're within 50lbs of each other, I'll gather that it sounds about right that my car is in the 3400lb range.
Modded though, I think the car has gained a bit of weight, I'll be dropping off stuff to the recycling depot in the next week, and I may just as well use my z28 to be sure.
I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that these cars hover in the 3400 lb range. I find it hard to believe that a fully optioned car (power everything, leather, cd changer etc) would be 3600lb on it's own. Considering I have power windows, leather, power drivers seat and no cd changer, that tossing in that changer and the spare will gain/save a lot. Doubtful.
It's a big jump to add 300lbs of weight from a stripper car to a fully optioned car. Aside from the convertables, the "weight" gain is highly improbable for the options listed.
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Originally Posted by RussStang
Give it up, let him believe what he wants. He doesn't want to do a forum search, for, you know, real actual weights done on scale, so let him magazine race all he wants. I am done arguing about this.
3650lbs Yeah, ok. Now a loaded fbody is weighing in at what an 03 Cobra weighs?
3650lbs Yeah, ok. Now a loaded fbody is weighing in at what an 03 Cobra weighs?
#48
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Originally Posted by boostedbuford
My car is fully loaded. Leather, power everything, WITHOUT rear seats, spare tire and jack....weighed a mighty 3405. w/o me in it.
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Originally Posted by SladeX
It's a big jump to add 300lbs of weight from a stripper car to a fully optioned car. Aside from the convertables, the "weight" gain is highly improbable for the options listed.
Take a stripper hardtop Z28 and weigh it next to a fully loaded WS6 vert and you'll see the biggest difference in weight for any two LS1 F-bodies. Z28's and Formulas are the lightest from the factory so I have no doubt that you're hovering around 3400-3450 lbs.
Plus don't forget that gas carries weight. One guy might go to a scale on E and another when the tank was full which can account for nearly 100lb of flucuation.
Look at this thread. This is a real guy who weighed his WS6 in at 3,540 and that was without his jack and spare. Here is a good quote that sums up what I have been trying to say about the different weights and different models:
Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
My car weighed 3548 with a half of tank of gas, my buddies "Stripper" Z28 weighed in at 3418, personally I like having options and the 100 or pounds doesnt bother me...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ght=gas+weighs
But according to Russtang they'll all be lying and you can't believe what you read.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
The WS6 hood and hatch are heavier then the Formulas or Z28's.
I'll agree about the hatch,... but the hood?! No way. After having propped up both a Z28 hood and a WS6 hood without the assist of hood shocks, I can tell you that the Z28 Hood is clearly heavier.
Remember, the WS6 has a fiberglass hood. The Z28 does not.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
I'll agree about the hatch,... but the hood?! No way. After having propped up both a Z28 hood and a WS6 hood without the assist of hood shocks, I can tell you that the Z28 Hood is clearly heavier.
Remember, the WS6 has a fiberglass hood. The Z28 does not.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
I thought it was the aftermarket WS6 hoods that were fibreglass and the OEM was steel just like the sleek beaks and Z28 hoods. I know the VFN fibreglass WS6 hoods are less heavy then OEM so they can't be that lightweight.
The stock 'glass hood is heavier than an aftermarket 'glass hood. But the WS6 definitely comes with fiberglass.
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Getting back on topic, you'll absolutely own the guy in the Benz. All Benzes are heavy *** pigs, especially the SL roadsters, 4000+lbs for a two seater
Only Benzes you need to worry about are ones with AMG or V12 badges. Those things pack some serious power, the supercharged V8 is something like 460hp.
Only Benzes you need to worry about are ones with AMG or V12 badges. Those things pack some serious power, the supercharged V8 is something like 460hp.
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Originally Posted by AronZ28
Getting back on topic, you'll absolutely own the guy in the Benz. All Benzes are heavy *** pigs, especially the SL roadsters, 4000+lbs for a two seater
Only Benzes you need to worry about are ones with AMG or V12 badges. Those things pack some serious power, the supercharged V8 is something like 460hp.
Only Benzes you need to worry about are ones with AMG or V12 badges. Those things pack some serious power, the supercharged V8 is something like 460hp.
SL65 specs:
http://www.mbusa.com/models/main.do?modelCode=SL65