Stock WS6 13's
06-05-2007, 07:18 PM
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Shift higher (6k), work on your launch (despite what was said, your stock 10 bolt will be fine if you still have stock gearing), and keep in it past the traps and you'll get your time! If not, take it back!
Agreed, except the car is also tuned for lower octane, hence the different octane tables. However, I would never run anything less than 91 (no 93 around here) in my car.
Originally Posted by Pewter02WS6
Are you kidding me? The computer in the car is programmed for the car to run on 93 or 91 at least. So when you put a lower octane fuel in the car the computer reads it to be inadequate for the motor so it retards timing and takes away power. And $2...really....come on. You can save your $2 in change you get back in about two days worth of spending cash. So tell your parents to save their change at the end of the day and use it for gas at the end of the week when they need to fill up lol. Basically the higher the octane the better the performance.
06-05-2007, 07:19 PM
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Shift higher (6k), work on your launch (despite what was said, your stock 10 bolt will be fine if you still have stock gearing), and keep in it past the traps and you'll get your time! If not, take it back!!
Agreed, except the car is also tuned for lower octane, hence the different octane tables. However, I would never run anything less than 91 (no 93 around here) in my car.
Originally Posted by Pewter02WS6
Are you kidding me? The computer in the car is programmed for the car to run on 93 or 91 at least. So when you put a lower octane fuel in the car the computer reads it to be inadequate for the motor so it retards timing and takes away power. And $2...really....come on. You can save your $2 in change you get back in about two days worth of spending cash. So tell your parents to save their change at the end of the day and use it for gas at the end of the week when they need to fill up lol. Basically the higher the octane the better the performance.
06-05-2007, 07:44 PM
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Put some dam 91 in it, change your plugs (they're probably trashed from all the aluminum coating them after all the detonation your engine has been seeing from WOT runs on crap 89 octane) and make sure your air and fuel filters are clean/relatively new (supposed to be changed every 30k miles). Take care of that, drop tire pressure a lil (not a lot), and shift at 6k every time and see where that puts you.
06-05-2007, 07:46 PM
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Put some dam 91 in it, change your plugs (they're probably trashed from all the aluminum coating them after all the detonation your engine has been seeing from WOT runs on crap 89 octane) and make sure your air and fuel filters are clean/relatively new (supposed to be changed every 30k miles). Take care of that, drop tire pressure a lil (not a lot), and shift at 6k every time and see where that puts you.
hell, almost bone stock with a lid and K&N filter, I trapped at 103 in Vegas heat (98* ambient) and altitude (around 2,200 ft).
hell, almost bone stock with a lid and K&N filter, I trapped at 103 in Vegas heat (98* ambient) and altitude (around 2,200 ft).
06-05-2007, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk99
Is running 87 octane going to affect times that much? Because my parents are absolutely convinced that the $2 they save with 87 octane is worth it. I know the car needs 91 (no 93 around here), but could someone explain why exactly 87 is bad for it?
To OP: Something is definately wrong... almost as if you have a plug wire disconnected only firing on 7... maybe even 6..
06-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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The car is 10.1:1 compression which is why it requires 91-93 to run properly. If you run 87 it will pull timing because it is knocking, not good.
Anyway, are you shifting incredibly slow? What rear gear do you have and how many miles are on this car? If you run low octane gas you could have fouled plugs and dirty injectors also. I don't think you lifted early because your 1/8 mile is slow too.
Low 13 for most cars stock, but no one seems to have a stock car anymore.
Brian
Anyway, are you shifting incredibly slow? What rear gear do you have and how many miles are on this car? If you run low octane gas you could have fouled plugs and dirty injectors also. I don't think you lifted early because your 1/8 mile is slow too.
Low 13 for most cars stock, but no one seems to have a stock car anymore.
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06-05-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
I like your answer. These guys are relatively young (early 40's). One guy is an LT1 guru. He built a C10 pick up from ground up (he has pictures to prove) and put in a LT1 from a camaro. His truck hits 14.4.
Reason I ask is I took my WS6 to track for 1st time recently. Below is my time slip. I hooked up well on the below run w/ M6. Car has 65K miles and is near stock. Either I'm doing something wrong or my car sux.
60' 2.24
1/8 9.527 at 74 mph
1/4 14.693 at 96 mph
Reason I ask is I took my WS6 to track for 1st time recently. Below is my time slip. I hooked up well on the below run w/ M6. Car has 65K miles and is near stock. Either I'm doing something wrong or my car sux.
60' 2.24
1/8 9.527 at 74 mph
1/4 14.693 at 96 mph
06-05-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dj2005
He said he has a LS1.
Anyone know of freeware downloadable datalogging software for LS1's, if there is such a thing for these engines?
06-06-2007, 12:33 AM
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If I could run a 13.7 @ 105 mph with a 2.3x 60 ft. In my T/A I used to have(I wasn't the best at driving a stick when I took it to the track) then anyone should be able to pull off low to mid 13's in a stock LS1.
06-07-2007, 10:02 PM
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did tune up Well I changed all eight plugs and wires plus fuel filter. Took her for a test drive; she seems to have a bit more pep. Will be at track tomorrow night for test and tune. Hopefully the tune up helps. Will let you folks know the results.
06-08-2007, 03:45 PM
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As everybody already stated - run the specified Octane Rating of gasoline!
Since this was your 1st time down the track, so might have made the same mistake I did my 1st time - the 1st stripe you come to at the end of the track IS NOT THE FINISH LINE! That is where the timer starts for the MPH - you should see another stripe (or possibly flags mounted) at the actual finish line. My 1st time I crossed the stripe, lifted and started to brake - 14.01 @ 99.9 (I actually ran 3 passes almost identical). I found the guy at the track who was running a 2002 WS6 fairly consistantly, and begged him to help me figure out what I was doing wrong - I was embarrased it was running so slow. He helped me with my launches ALOT! My BONE-STOCK 2002 Camaro SS CONVERTIBLE has run a best of 13.12 @ 109 now. If you bog it off the line, it slows you down - if you "pop" the clutch, the tires go up in smoke, and it slows you down. You have to get the RPMs up fairly high, then "ride" the clutch out for that second or two - you want the RPMs high enough that it doesn't "bog", but you don't want to let the clutch out fast enough to turn your tires into smoke. It takes PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE! It is possible to cut 1.9 60' times with the stock EVERYTHING
Since this was your 1st time down the track, so might have made the same mistake I did my 1st time - the 1st stripe you come to at the end of the track IS NOT THE FINISH LINE! That is where the timer starts for the MPH - you should see another stripe (or possibly flags mounted) at the actual finish line. My 1st time I crossed the stripe, lifted and started to brake - 14.01 @ 99.9 (I actually ran 3 passes almost identical). I found the guy at the track who was running a 2002 WS6 fairly consistantly, and begged him to help me figure out what I was doing wrong - I was embarrased it was running so slow. He helped me with my launches ALOT! My BONE-STOCK 2002 Camaro SS CONVERTIBLE has run a best of 13.12 @ 109 now. If you bog it off the line, it slows you down - if you "pop" the clutch, the tires go up in smoke, and it slows you down. You have to get the RPMs up fairly high, then "ride" the clutch out for that second or two - you want the RPMs high enough that it doesn't "bog", but you don't want to let the clutch out fast enough to turn your tires into smoke. It takes PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE! It is possible to cut 1.9 60' times with the stock EVERYTHING
06-08-2007, 04:42 PM
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These are probably the same type of guys who talk about how crazy fast muscle cars were back in the day. BS. If they were so crazy fast then, why do they run freakin 14's when they do a factory rebuild on them? Why? CAUSE THEY WEREN"T FAST THEN EITHER!! Sorry.
It's not 1985 and we are not running a quadra jet.
I am taking my car to the track tonight actually. I hope to click off some mid 10 second passes, in the 1/8th mile.
Damn elusive driver mod!!
It's not 1985 and we are not running a quadra jet.
I am taking my car to the track tonight actually. I hope to click off some mid 10 second passes, in the 1/8th mile.
Damn elusive driver mod!!
06-08-2007, 04:43 PM
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They're retaeded. High 13's at worst out of a horrible driver.
Read your owners manual. You are SUPPOSED to run no lower than 91. It says that for a reason, do it.
Read your owners manual. You are SUPPOSED to run no lower than 91. It says that for a reason, do it.