Great oil that is readily available at an auto parts store?
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
A lot of people may disagree but many engine builders swear by the Rotela oil that is used for diesel engins. It has a lot of cleaning agents in the oil. I run it in my DD and car runs a lot smoother.
I thought Mobile 1 changed over to using base 3 stocks instead of 4. Hence why so many people on this board hate the oil now and have changed to other oils.
I thought Mobile 1 changed over to using base 3 stocks instead of 4. Hence why so many people on this board hate the oil now and have changed to other oils.
I would say you are right about the Rotella. It's just group 3 but has many cleaning agents since it's a diesel oil. You know how dirty diesel engines get. About the Mobil 1, I am not aware of the basestock change. I've never read anything about that or anyone hating the oil.
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I have seen a lot of people hating on mobile 1 with some people haveing some backing. I know Patman knows a lot about oil, and I know you can't beat lab tests. I know that they are on here but don't know where exactly.
I will try to find it and report back.
I will try to find it and report back.
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I've always run Valvoline 5w30 in ALL of my cars with no issues from any. Always comes out a slightly darker amber than it goes in. I won't run anything else.
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Originally Posted by dhdenney
I've never heard so many people say Royal Purple is the best. Which makes me think they have a good marketing dept. So I respect that as an American--->free enterprise. But anyway, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil, Royal Purple: Group 3 oils refined from petroleum basestocks. Mobil 1, Amsoil, German Castrol: Group 4 oils refined from natural gas. Redline: Group 5 refined from ester basestocks.
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Originally Posted by darom
Question for the guys who use SuperTech and Rotella, which weight would you recommend for a warm/hot climate?
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My car has 130k on it and I haven't lost a drop at 2200 miles on the stuff. Then again, I think the LS1 is a much better motor than his old ford 4.6.
A couple of uoa's I've seen from Blackstone labs indicate that the stuff thins out pretty good by the end of it's lifespan...closer to a 20w, but still demonstrates excellent wear protection. This is usually a good indicator of a quality additives pack. May even help mpg's a little.
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Originally Posted by dhdenney
Mobil 1, Amsoil, German Castrol: Group 4 oils refined from natural gas. Redline: Group 5 refined from ester basestocks.
i THINK their 40 weights are still group 4's. i've run 5W-40 with moderate success, though GC 0W-30 didn't burn as much and gave me a quieter engine with about the same oil pressure.
ever since exxon bought mobil, they've run mobil 1 into the ground. all of it's not even a true synthetic anymore, and they've changed their formulas, put lower quality additives in them and raised the price. i HATE exxon. i don't even buy gas from them. two companies i won't buy gas from are exxon and citgo. screw them both.
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Originally Posted by LSwon-der
A couple of uoa's I've seen from Blackstone labs indicate that the stuff thins out pretty good by the end of it's lifespan...closer to a 20w, but still demonstrates excellent wear protection. This is usually a good indicator of a quality additives pack. May even help mpg's a little. ![Driving](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_driving3.gif)
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Originally Posted by dhdenney
Actually I'm calling
on that. I am maintaining that Mobil 1 has always been a Group IV oil.
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http://forums.evolutionm.net/archive.../t-232827.html
or just google "mobil 1 group 3".
you calling bs on it is you believing in a lie. mobil 1 is NOT a full synthetic anymore, at least the 30 weights i know for a fact.
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Originally Posted by dgvincent86
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It says european formula on the back. Look at the ws6 store and they have some pics.
For the rotella they only to my knowledge make one synthetic oil and it is in a blue container. I think it is 5W40.
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
It says european formula on the back
German castrol comes in both "european formula" and regular 0W-30 syntec, not european formula. i have both sitting on my shelf at home. here is a big pic:
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look at the back. if it says "MADE IN GERMANY", it's GC 0W-30. it doesn't matter if it says "european formula" or not because GC comes in both varieties.