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How much quicker is an ls2 vette compared to Z28

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Old 07-25-2007, 12:26 AM
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It's all about the handling and braking. Its not that much faster straight line. The vette has independant rear and we all know every time you change the direction of torque it is reduced. The F-body has an advantage for drag racing it is in the straight axle rear end. Only one directional change of torque instead of having four cv-joints to transfer all the torque. The vette is fast and alot more fun on the twisties. Have fun....
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Saw a bone stock c-6 run a best of 12.73 at bremerton raceway last june.
Pretty quick car.
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Originally Posted by six_string_wiz
Not a tad........ALOT.

Youll be driving a refined,panty droppin,corner carving machine.Stock, youll pull bolton camaros/firebirds with your eyes closed.
LOL i dont think so....
Old 07-25-2007, 01:30 AM
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My opinion Vette=GM Sportscar light fast good for twisties
F-Body=GM Muscelcar/ Gran Torismo with the Power of the Top Sportscars for normal working people. fast and with aftermarket suspension also good for twisties

So you must decide what you love more Vette or F-Body with light to mid mods.

If you like the C6 mor from the design and all go for the Vette

If you an F-Body entusiast mod them a little more and you will be also lucky

I personality love the F-Body more
Old 07-25-2007, 05:42 AM
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I messed around with one a little bit around here...just kinda gunning it when he went and vice versa through a gear or two and I can personally tell you that the C6 is not completely out of a full bolt on LS1 F Body's league. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have a C6 than 10 of my current cars, just saying. What's the average, real world trap on a stocker C6?
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IMHO..the Vette was alot faster. On my Z28, I had an A4, y-pipe, and LM. Didn't have the headers. I really don't think there was a comparison between the two of my cars. Wished I could have kept both but I've always wanted a Vette so that's the way I went. Good luck with your decision and don't listen to all the Vette Hata's

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Old 07-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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The Corvette is about a second faster in the 1/4 mile than an A4 Z28. It will also feel faster since you sit lower to the ground, the car is lighter, and it's more stiffly spring.
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Originally Posted by 560SL


The Corvette is about a second faster in the 1/4 mile than an A4 Z28. It will also feel faster since you sit lower to the ground, the car is lighter, and it's more stiffly spring.
Maybe a STOCK A4 Z28, but not a bolt-on one.

I think this thread is such an argument because people have differing opinions on what 'alot' faster is. To me, 'alot' faster is about a 1 sec. difference in 1/4 time and maybe 8-10 MPH in trap speed. A stock LS2 vette will NOT be able to beat a bolt on LS1 F-bod by nearly that much, if at all. I've seen many LS2 Vettes dyno around 345 RWHP. That is easily surpassable by a bolt-on LS1.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
stop making **** up, from your opinion it is obvious you have never even been for a ride in a new vette......anyone in this thread who has never driven or at least been in the passenger seat in a new LS2 vette needs to ......how can so many of you say "its a tad faster" when you have never even been in one? To the OP.....the vette will feel so much faster......I have a 6 speed 2002 Z28 with the mods you see in my sig and my buddy has a 2005 A4 corvette with just a vararam and his car's acceleration is sick.....my car doesnt even compare, go test drive one and you will see what I mean, just find a straight away, stop and floor it and the car will put you in the seat
you're absolutely ridiculous. he has an M6 car, that's a high 12 second/low 13 second car stock. he has full exhaust. that means his car is capable of running a mid 12 second pass. the fastest C6 ever ran a 12.2 according to a pervious poster. we're talking about a .2-.3 second difference in ET's, and you're saying that the C6 is going to be a lot faster? you'll barely feel a difference.

from your opinion, it's obvious that you have no concept of speed. it's all in your mind. the vette will hardly BE any faster. if anything, the vette will feel faster because of the way you sit in it compared to the f-body. don't be an ***. i have the slowest LS1 f-body made and it throws you back in your seat if you're in its powerband

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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
you're absolutely ridiculous. he has an M6 car, that's a high 12 second/low 13 second car stock. he has full exhaust. that means his car is capable of running a mid 12 second pass. the fastest C6 ever ran a 12.2 according to a pervious poster. we're talking about a .2-.3 second difference in ET's, and you're saying that the C6 is going to be a lot faster? you'll barely feel a difference.

from your opinion, it's obvious that you have no concept of speed. it's all in your mind. the vette will hardly BE any faster. if anything, the vette will feel faster because of the way you sit in it compared to the f-body. don't be an ***. i have the slowest LS1 f-body made and it throws you back in your seat if you're in its powerband

Where are you getting that he has an M6 car? Are we talking about the original poster? He has an A4, and without a stall I assume.

FYI for those who were wondering about the info... Currently the fastest C6 runs posted to Corvetteforum are as follows--

Showroom stock
12.21 @ 115.45 - 06 A6

Bolt ons
11.62 @ 117.48 - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI, catback, headers, converter, tune, DR
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Originally Posted by jbuerke142
Where are you getting that he has an M6 car? Are we talking about the original poster? He has an A4, and without a stall I assume.
okay, my mistake. i read another poster that said "I am in an M6 so traction is a larger issue for me." for some reason, i mistook it for the OP.

okay, so the OP has an A4. because of that, we can only assume he's going to get an A6 corvette. if he's rocking an automatic now, he will probably want an automatic corvette. now, i don't know if he has a 3.23 rear or a 2.73 rear, but that being said, we're comparing a low to mid 12 second car to a mid to high 12 second car. there's probably a difference in ET's of .3 - .4 or so. that's not a huge difference by any means. if you are beating someone in a race by .3 - .4 seconds, you're beating them by around 2 car lengths. to say that is a "huge" difference is absolutely ridiculous.

will it be faster? yes, it'll be faster, but a 12 second car isn't exactly super fast to begin with. it'll be noticeable, but IMO not worth going into debt over. throw a cam in the camaro and you'll eat a C6.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
okay, my mistake. i read another poster that said "I am in an M6 so traction is a larger issue for me." for some reason, i mistook it for the OP.

okay, so the OP has an A4. because of that, we can only assume he's going to get an A6 corvette. if he's rocking an automatic now, he will probably want an automatic corvette. now, i don't know if he has a 3.23 rear or a 2.73 rear, but that being said, we're comparing a low to mid 12 second car to a mid to high 12 second car. there's probably a difference in ET's of .3 - .4 or so. that's not a huge difference by any means. if you are beating someone in a race by .3 - .4 seconds, you're beating them by around 2 car lengths. to say that is a "huge" difference is absolutely ridiculous.

will it be faster? yes, it'll be faster, but a 12 second car isn't exactly super fast to begin with. it'll be noticeable, but IMO not worth going into debt over. throw a cam in the camaro and you'll eat a C6.
God damn man. Please stop arguing about something retarded. The C6 IS faster, enough said, now please shut the **** up.
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Originally Posted by The Black Mamba
God damn man. Please stop arguing about something retarded. The C6 IS faster, enough said, now please shut the **** up.
no **** the C6 is faster, you ignorant ****. the question is, is it by a lot or a little. did you even read the thread, you *******?
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I just thought of something. Why don't you just go test drive the ******* thing. Didn't you say your dad owns the dealership? Drive the ****** and find out for yourself.
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Yeah I never comment much but wow car thats in the 12s at 112mph or faster witch is what ive seen stock ones run compared to a car if its an A4 stock making under 300rwhp going 13.20s at best with exhaust at 100-103. I cant believe there is even an arguement about witch is faster

get over it c6 wins hands down in the go fast department and handling department

stock m6/a6/a4 will make a stock a4 fbody look stupid

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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
no **** the C6 is faster, you ignorant ****. the question is, is it by a lot or a little. did you even read the thread, you *******?
I'm sorry, but I don't waste my time reading long worthless threads by a biased little *****.
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This thread shouldn't even exist....
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Gear ratio does play a roll in how the C6 moves....Here are the ratios @ hand. Just something think about.......

__GEAR______Mode__or__Option
____________Z06___Std_6-spd___Z51_6-spd___6-spd_Auto___4-spd_Auto
__1st_______2.66____2.66________2.97____ _____4.02________3.06
__2nd_______1.78____1.78________2.07____ _____2.36________1.63
__3rd_______1.30____1.30________1.43____ _____1.53________1.00
__4th_______1.00____1.00________1.00____ _____1.15________0.70
__5th_______0.74____0.74________0.71____ _____0.85
__6th_______0.50____0.50________0.57____ _____0.67
Reverse_____2.90____2.90________3.28____ _____3.06________2.29

Axle Ratio___3.42____3.42________3.42________ _2.56_____2.73(or_3.15)


Gear Ratio times Rear Axle Ratio
__GEAR______Mode__or__Option
____________Z06___Std_6-spd___Z51_6-spd___6-spd_Auto___4-spd_Auto
__1st_______9.10____9.10_______10.16____ ____10.29_____8.35 or 9.64
__2nd_______6.09____6.09________7.08____ _____6.04_____4.45 or 5.13
__3rd_______4.45____4.45________4.89____ _____3.92_____2.73 or 3.15
__4th_______3.42____3.42________3.42____ _____2.94_____1.91 or 2.21
__5th_______2.53____2.53________2.43____ _____2.18
__6th_______1.71____1.71________1.95____ _____1.72
Reverse_____9.92____9.92_______11.22____ _____7.83_____6.25 or 7.21
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Originally Posted by MYTFASTSS
Gear ratio does play a roll in how the C6 moves....Here are the ratios @ hand. Just something think about.......

__GEAR______Mode__or__Option
____________Z06___Std_6-spd___Z51_6-spd___6-spd_Auto___4-spd_Auto
__1st_______2.66____2.66________2.97____ _____4.02________3.06
__2nd_______1.78____1.78________2.07____ _____2.36________1.63
__3rd_______1.30____1.30________1.43____ _____1.53________1.00
__4th_______1.00____1.00________1.00____ _____1.15________0.70
__5th_______0.74____0.74________0.71____ _____0.85
__6th_______0.50____0.50________0.57____ _____0.67
Reverse_____2.90____2.90________3.28____ _____3.06________2.29

Axle Ratio___3.42____3.42________3.42________ _2.56_____2.73(or_3.15)


Gear Ratio times Rear Axle Ratio
__GEAR______Mode__or__Option
____________Z06___Std_6-spd___Z51_6-spd___6-spd_Auto___4-spd_Auto
__1st_______9.10____9.10_______10.16____ ____10.29_____8.35 or 9.64
__2nd_______6.09____6.09________7.08____ _____6.04_____4.45 or 5.13
__3rd_______4.45____4.45________4.89____ _____3.92_____2.73 or 3.15
__4th_______3.42____3.42________3.42____ _____2.94_____1.91 or 2.21
__5th_______2.53____2.53________2.43____ _____2.18
__6th_______1.71____1.71________1.95____ _____1.72
Reverse_____9.92____9.92_______11.22____ _____7.83_____6.25 or 7.21
Wow, nice info. Thanks.
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well, its about cash $$$ . can you buy a camaro or bird and with mods for say 20k go as fast as a stock 45 - 50k vette? i'll let you decide!



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