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Old 08-16-2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
You get the Stang, every WS6 that passes you (including in a race) you'll wish you had waited.

I waited two years looking for a white on white leather Y3F Z28 99+.
or maybe he gets the TA and every Mach that passes, he will wish he would have waited???
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
The Mach 1 engine is basically the 03-04 Cobra motor without the supercharger.
The Mach 1 engine is not the same as the 03-04 Cobra. The Mach has an aluminum bock and Hypercraptic piston and rods, The 03-04 Cobra has an Iron Block with forged internals.
BTW, there are lots of people pushing 600 RWHP on a stock LS1, I could be wrong but I don't see many Machs doing that.

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Old 08-16-2007, 10:12 PM
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so you couldnt just put a KB on and make big power you would have to build up the short block also? or could you still make 450 rwhp with the stock bottom end?
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Originally Posted by SmaknaSS
The Mach 1 engine is not the same as the 03-04 Cobra. The Mach has an aluminum bock and Hypercraptic piston and rods, The 03-04 Cobra has an Iron Block with forged internals.
BTW, there are lots of people pushing pushing 600 RWHP on a stock LS1, I could be wrong but I don't see many Machs doing that.
heads anddd block... i seeen it
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Originally Posted by 94 redbird
so you couldnt just put a KB on and make big power you would have to build up the short block also? or could you still make 450 rwhp with the stock bottom end?
for a 450 hp mach 1, you would probably have to upgrade fuel system, get ride of the treme 3650, and build the bottom end. kenne belle makes some amazing twinscrews and those cars can be sick, i think it just takes a lot more money in a modular for then it does in a ls1 car.
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how bout this get a ws6 or a termi... screw the mach1
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WS-6!!! Mach 1
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Originally Posted by Bullet_WS6
how bout this get a ws6 or a termi... screw the mach1

or a 03 - 04 Cobra (only mustang id EVER think about owning)
Old 08-16-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
or a 03 - 04 Cobra (only mustang id EVER think about owning)
thats what a termi is.. terminator = 03-04 cobra
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I dont think that a WS6 is going to blow away a Mach stock for stock. The WS6 is stronger and will pull but no bus lengths. Basic Mods for both cars (exhaust, air intake, headers) The TA will be alot stronger and respond better than the Mach would just like the others said, LS1's respond with decent sized numbers for bolt on mods. Mach's are sweet though, but WS6's still have a great look to them that is hard to match. T tops on the TA dont forget. Ive driven a few Mach's and raced a few Mach's with mods to match. Driving them it was a sweet car, but it felt too much like a GT inside, the power was great, feel was good, and sound was amazing, I love the 4.6 sound. Race wise, I raced a stock Mach with my mods in sig, and I put a good wooping on it. Raced another one with similar mods and it was a closer race but still had him pretty good, after the 110-120 mph+ speeds the LS1 is the king, it pulls at those speeds like no other car. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Bullet_WS6
thats what a termi is.. terminator = 03-04 cobra

i know that i dont call them terminators wasnt it a guy with a black 03 cobra that was on steroids and he named it terminator and then the name stuck now everyone calls them terminators?
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
i know that i dont call them terminators wasnt it a guy with a black 03 cobra that was on steroids and he named it terminator and then the name stuck now everyone calls them terminators?
lol then whyd u add or a 03-04 cobra when i said look at termis... eh n.m but no its called that because they terminate everything stock for stock... and are fairly durable
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i just call them 03-04 Cobras i guess the terminator makes since but i thought that was what a guy names his and then everyone started calling them that my bad i want a black one baddddddddddd but im not giving up one of my fbodys for it
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
i just call them 03-04 Cobras i guess the terminator makes since but i thought that was what a guy names his and then everyone started calling them that my bad i want a black one baddddddddddd but im not giving up one of my fbodys for it
i wouldnt either.. i got my fbody for a reason... i hate the sound of supers and this things a n/a beast... after my cam i can hang with termis n/a and thats pretty good if you ask me
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Make your decision based on what you like, not what everyone tells you on the forums.
Quoted for the truth.
Old 08-16-2007, 11:21 PM
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WS6 or Ban!
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Obviously everyone is going to say go with the trans-am and i say the same. But I dont know why people worship the 03-04 cobra. Why would you want a car that weighs 3800lbs and has the aerodynamics of a brick wall? who cares if its supercharged from the factory? With the extra money you spend on one you can easily mod the f-body to handle better, accelerate faster, and get much better gas mileage in the process. And btw stock for stock the termi isnt much faster if any at all in some cases.
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Machs are nice but I'd go with the WS6.
Old 08-16-2007, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 94 redbird
i like ls1 trans ams alot and im looking to buy one, but today i test drove a 2003 black Mach 1 with 35000 miles for 16,500 i like the car alot but im not sure if i should wait until i can find a ws6 or just get the mach. what would you guys do, and also how well does the mach respond to mods.
wow, that's a good price. If I had found one w/those miles and that price I probably would have ended up w/that instead of the SS. I started out looking at those.

I'm kinda glad I didn't find one though b/c I like the SS better.

The machs are sweet cars, and honestly stock to stock it would more than likely be a driver's race.

Like others have said the LS1 is easier to mod. However, Machs tend to have been beaten less, and to my knowledge have fewer problems (like the rearend..)

It all depends on your goals for the car I guess.
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ws6...unless you dont like to go fast then get the mach 1


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