Why is the LS1 so good?
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Im not trying to diss on the ls1 at all but, 1st of all the 5.9 liter with a 198hp is just plain bad engine, idk how you make 200hp from a 5.9 liter, 2nd of all i think the ls1 could have obviously been much better b/c look at the m3's, straight 6 3.2 liter puts down 340hp..... once again not trying to diss on the ls1 but obviously could have technically been much better, oh and the new m3's 4 liter v8 which putts out 412hp...... just saying
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The major reason the LS1 and newer variants work so well are the design of the cylinder heads. These heads are so efficient, providing strong top end power and low-to-mid range torque. That is, by far, the best aspect of the LS1.
The other key parts such as six-bolt mains, well-flowing intake manifold, and 1.7:1 rockers are just supporting cast members to the power created from the heads. Also, let's not forget the computer tuning that allows increased compression and cam profiles that were previously hard to get around.
The other key parts such as six-bolt mains, well-flowing intake manifold, and 1.7:1 rockers are just supporting cast members to the power created from the heads. Also, let's not forget the computer tuning that allows increased compression and cam profiles that were previously hard to get around.
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Im not trying to diss on the ls1 at all but, 1st of all the 5.9 liter with a 198hp is just plain bad engine, idk how you make 200hp from a 5.9 liter, 2nd of all i think the ls1 could have obviously been much better b/c look at the m3's, straight 6 3.2 liter puts down 340hp..... once again not trying to diss on the ls1 but obviously could have technically been much better, oh and the new m3's 4 liter v8 which putts out 412hp...... just saying
oh and of course it was the 7th day while resting god thought he needed something fun, badass, and that the ladies would love. and on the 8th day LS1 was born. because perfection takes more than a minute for even god to think of. (he learned to take his time to avoid imperfections, he learned from day 6 lol)
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The major reason the LS1 and newer variants work so well are the design of the cylinder heads. These heads are so efficient, providing strong top end power and low-to-mid range torque. That is, by far, the best aspect of the LS1.
The other key parts such as six-bolt mains, well-flowing intake manifold, and 1.7:1 rockers are just supporting cast members to the power created from the heads. Also, let's not forget the computer tuning that allows increased compression and cam profiles that were previously hard to get around.
The other key parts such as six-bolt mains, well-flowing intake manifold, and 1.7:1 rockers are just supporting cast members to the power created from the heads. Also, let's not forget the computer tuning that allows increased compression and cam profiles that were previously hard to get around.
The LS1 makes good torque because its bore to stroke ratio. In the past, a bore and stroke like the one in the LS1 has almost always caused valve shrouding problems in V8 muscle car engines. For example, Pontiac's 350, with a bore and stroke ratio of 3.875/3.75 inches, is very similar to the LS1's 3.90 x 3.62, but does not garner much respect from the V8 community. As such the Poncho V8 was used more as a general purpose V8, and the bigger bore engines were used for high performance applications (for the most part).
So the secret to the LS1's power lies in the cylinder head design, allowing it run a relatively small bore, large stroke.
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Five pages, and finally someone actually started answering the question. Saying the LS1 is a good engine because it makes power isnt really giving any depth.. and thats basically what everyones saying. I'm sure the O.P. knows the LS1's displacement and power lol.
The LS1 makes good torque because its bore to stroke ratio. In the past, a bore and stroke like the one in the LS1 has almost always caused valve shrouding problems in V8 muscle car engines. For example, Pontiac's 350, with a bore and stroke ratio of 3.875/3.75 inches, is very similar to the LS1's 3.90 x 3.62, but does not garner much respect from the V8 community. As such the Poncho V8 was used more as a general purpose V8, and the bigger bore engines were used for high performance applications (for the most part).
So the secret to the LS1's power lies in the cylinder head design, allowing it run a relatively small bore, large stroke.
The LS1 makes good torque because its bore to stroke ratio. In the past, a bore and stroke like the one in the LS1 has almost always caused valve shrouding problems in V8 muscle car engines. For example, Pontiac's 350, with a bore and stroke ratio of 3.875/3.75 inches, is very similar to the LS1's 3.90 x 3.62, but does not garner much respect from the V8 community. As such the Poncho V8 was used more as a general purpose V8, and the bigger bore engines were used for high performance applications (for the most part).
So the secret to the LS1's power lies in the cylinder head design, allowing it run a relatively small bore, large stroke.
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personally i think the 1993 LT1 is the baddest engine/ 4th gen car ever lightest car out there maybe you have 30 or so more hp stock but for every 100lbs u lose 10 hp so really the cars are evenly matched and the lt1 isnt made with no aluminum bullshit and the trans is not electric lol seems like a watse of money to me my car stock just with a gutted cat and v force muffler has smoke i mean smoked a 5.7L gto stock and a 2001 trans am lol so go figure maybe my lt1 is just bad *** o and by the way the 1998 ss ran stock 13.8 quarter mile times and the 93 z28 ran 13.9 so really there isnt much of a difference just who gets the launch and i have raced a 6.0L GTO 6 speed from a roll at about 30 and im not a fan of roll races at all and i he pulled on me but by about 100 i was still on the pass side door so he pulled a lil over a fender on me i think the ls1 and ls2 are kinda over rated the gto 6.0L are suppose to run 13.5 stock so i dunno really i dont think there is much difference from the lt1 to the ls1 is all comes down to power to weight ratios my cars 400ls lighter than a ls1 car stock so i just think ls1 guys would be better off getting a lt1 lol and changeing the front end like i did to an 02 ss front end sry i wasnt very punctual im in a hurry
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personally i think the 1993 LT1 is the baddest engine/ 4th gen car ever lightest car out there maybe you have 30 or so more hp stock but for every 100lbs u lose 10 hp so really the cars are evenly matched and the lt1 isnt made with no aluminum bullshit and the trans is not electric lol seems like a watse of money to me my car stock just with a gutted cat and v force muffler has smoke i mean smoked a 5.7L gto stock and a 2001 trans am lol so go figure maybe my lt1 is just bad *** o and by the way the 1998 ss ran stock 13.8 quarter mile times and the 93 z28 ran 13.9 so really there isnt much of a difference just who gets the launch and i have raced a 6.0L GTO 6 speed from a roll at about 30 and im not a fan of roll races at all and i he pulled on me but by about 100 i was still on the pass side door so he pulled a lil over a fender on me i think the ls1 and ls2 are kinda over rated the gto 6.0L are suppose to run 13.5 stock so i dunno really i dont think there is much difference from the lt1 to the ls1 is all comes down to power to weight ratios my cars 400ls lighter than a ls1 car stock so i just think ls1 guys would be better off getting a lt1 lol and changeing the front end like i did to an 02 ss front end sry i wasnt very punctual im in a hurry
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personally i think the 1993 LT1 is the baddest engine/ 4th gen car ever lightest car out there maybe you have 30 or so more hp stock but for every 100lbs u lose 10 hp so really the cars are evenly matched and the lt1 isnt made with no aluminum bullshit and the trans is not electric lol seems like a watse of money to me my car stock just with a gutted cat and v force muffler has smoke i mean smoked a 5.7L gto stock and a 2001 trans am lol so go figure maybe my lt1 is just bad *** o and by the way the 1998 ss ran stock 13.8 quarter mile times and the 93 z28 ran 13.9 so really there isnt much of a difference just who gets the launch and i have raced a 6.0L GTO 6 speed from a roll at about 30 and im not a fan of roll races at all and i he pulled on me but by about 100 i was still on the pass side door so he pulled a lil over a fender on me i think the ls1 and ls2 are kinda over rated the gto 6.0L are suppose to run 13.5 stock so i dunno really i dont think there is much difference from the lt1 to the ls1 is all comes down to power to weight ratios my cars 400ls lighter than a ls1 car stock so i just think ls1 guys would be better off getting a lt1 lol and changeing the front end like i did to an 02 ss front end sry i wasnt very punctual im in a hurry
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personally i think the 1993 LT1 is the baddest engine/ 4th gen car ever lightest car out there maybe you have 30 or so more hp stock but for every 100lbs u lose 10 hp so really the cars are evenly matched and the lt1 isnt made with no aluminum bullshit and the trans is not electric lol seems like a watse of money to me my car stock just with a gutted cat and v force muffler has smoke i mean smoked a 5.7L gto stock and a 2001 trans am lol so go figure maybe my lt1 is just bad *** o and by the way the 1998 ss ran stock 13.8 quarter mile times and the 93 z28 ran 13.9 so really there isnt much of a difference just who gets the launch and i have raced a 6.0L GTO 6 speed from a roll at about 30 and im not a fan of roll races at all and i he pulled on me but by about 100 i was still on the pass side door so he pulled a lil over a fender on me i think the ls1 and ls2 are kinda over rated the gto 6.0L are suppose to run 13.5 stock so i dunno really i dont think there is much difference from the lt1 to the ls1 is all comes down to power to weight ratios my cars 400ls lighter than a ls1 car stock so i just think ls1 guys would be better off getting a lt1 lol and changeing the front end like i did to an 02 ss front end sry i wasnt very punctual im in a hurry
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personally i think the 1993 LT1 is the baddest engine/ 4th gen car ever lightest car out there maybe you have 30 or so more hp stock but for every 100lbs u lose 10 hp so really the cars are evenly matched and the lt1 isnt made with no aluminum bullshit and the trans is not electric lol seems like a watse of money to me my car stock just with a gutted cat and v force muffler has smoke i mean smoked a 5.7L gto stock and a 2001 trans am lol so go figure maybe my lt1 is just bad *** o and by the way the 1998 ss ran stock 13.8 quarter mile times and the 93 z28 ran 13.9 so really there isnt much of a difference just who gets the launch and i have raced a 6.0L GTO 6 speed from a roll at about 30 and im not a fan of roll races at all and i he pulled on me but by about 100 i was still on the pass side door so he pulled a lil over a fender on me i think the ls1 and ls2 are kinda over rated the gto 6.0L are suppose to run 13.5 stock so i dunno really i dont think there is much difference from the lt1 to the ls1 is all comes down to power to weight ratios my cars 400ls lighter than a ls1 car stock so i just think ls1 guys would be better off getting a lt1 lol and changeing the front end like i did to an 02 ss front end sry i wasnt very punctual im in a hurry
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