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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Ok so i had a power steering leak, found location of the leak.
fluid seemed to be spraying out of the back side of the pump. Between the pump and the bracket that attaches the pump to the head.

Ordered brand new pump from autozone, took off the old pump and reinstalled the new one. Filled it up and started to bleed it.. all looked fine till i started the car and started turning wheel from stop to stop. Saw fluid on ground. Had a friend turn the wheel and got under the car, all was good until the wheel was turned to the stop, then it started pissing from the same spot as the old one but ten times worse.

So I said screw it exchanged the new leaky pump for the complete setup with the tank. installed that to night and same thing...

i am totally lost. the lines are tight no leaks can't see anything leaking from the hoses only place it sprays from is the from the bottom between the rear of the pump and the bracket..

any help on this would be appreciated... Other wise going to have to take it to the shop and have them figure it out.

attached is the best pic i could get to help show the leak area

left arrow back side of pump

right arrow front side of head bracket

pump mates to the braket with nothing between there should not be fluid there
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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have a buddy turn the wheel with the car started and check over the pump and see if u can pinpoint why it is leaking
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:58 AM
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can't see exact location because of where pump mounts to bracket. back of pump sit flush with bracket and it sprays out between the two.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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well guess nobodys seen this one LOL

gonna try letting the car get warmed up again and see if maybe internal seals just needed a little longer... If no luck it goes to the shop
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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junk the PS and go manual haha
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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well it is strange

i let the car come up to temp. they played around with the wheel

no leaks when i turn the wheel, until it goes full left or full right (lock or stop)

as soon as you release it from locked out it stops spraying???? it is for sure not a hose


these are a couple pics best i could do.....

bottom of the PS pump where it attaches to the bracket. when wheel is full turned it sprays like crazy from between
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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when you hit steering lock your ps pressure goes up fairly high. do you think that the back of the case could have cracked when you installed the pulley?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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also at the dealership where i work,GM....we always seemed to have problems with aftermarket ps pumps. (not on fbodys, generally i havent seen very many with ps problems) but for sure on grand prix, and grand am.........just a thought
I know you said its not from the hose, but with the ps hose so close to where you are pointing in the pics...ur positive its not there?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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from what I can see it does not looks like it. I guess if there was a hole in the line it could be spraying from the hose to the underside of the pump then splashing off the pump.....

All I know is that I a completely stumped...

Car is going to the shop today for them to find the leak or at least the cause and just incase I got another (3rd one) PS pump coming will be here Saturday at noon...
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Go buy yourself some powersteering dye. It is floursent dye. Add it to your fluild that is in your tank. Make the pump start leaking. Then use black light to find leaks. Simple.
Repair as needed. Exact same thing the dealer you bring it to will do.
I can't recall either if the line that foes into the pump on the side normally has a o-ring on it. Did you happen to replace that when you had it apart?
Sparying powersteering fluild is not good will ruin the alternator that sits underneath it.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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well best of luck, and let us know what they find
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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yeah I know it already took out one alternator.... but new one has life time warranty, and since I bought the pump from the same place I asked about if the pump I bought from them sprays fluid on the alt i bought from them and shorts it out, will that negate the warranty ..... and they said no and that was from the store manager so ... we will see....


shop can't get the car in till next week so I'll give the dye a try.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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also about the line.... from what I could tell there was no O-ring on that line.... I used tef tape around the threads and it is dry all around that fitting.....
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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you definitely need to get a small o-ring to put over the flair on the hose.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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well it was the hose spraying one the bottom of the pump in a spot i couldn't see used the dye and was able to track it down

thanks for the ideas and help
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Glad you finally narrowed it down and found the leak.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Me too lol
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