lemons12

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Yes, the fronts are right near the collector of the headers.
It would be a lot of gas, noticeable to even a "non car" person.

Loading up is *kind of like a small back fire almost.. You are giving it has and it sounds kind of like a gurgling effect. Best way I know to explain it. No burns or arcing on which wire?

LS6427

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Like "lemon" said.....by rotating the wire at the coil that should deflect and bend the wire in different directions and hopefully get the wire or boot off the pipe. But sometimes the razor trick is needed to take a little chunk off the boot if it won't stay off of a pipe.

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LT1TA

iTrader: (17)

ok, The sputtering definitely doesn't depend on rpm range, i walked the rpm in first gear all the way up to 4300, and punch it and all it did was shake back and forth. i tried right after engaging in first, and it bogged. my rear end is popping unless thats my exhaust banging (dumps). will getting a different maf affect the tuning? i've heard yes and no. i have fixed that spark plug issue btw. im definitely going with the vette o2s but i'm just so sick of this mess

LT1TA

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ohh, well i didn't know that's what loading meant... smh.. man it loads like hell when i give it gas. so i pretty much meant load when i said sputtering.

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

Changing the MAF has a potential to alter the tune. The chances of it altering worse and slim to none. If it is bad, the car will run better.. No doubt about that. A "touch up" tune may be needed to get it to 100% like it should be, if your tuner is capable of that. I kid, I kid.

Get the o2s tomorrow.. That doesn't take 15-20 minutes tops to do if you take your time and have a beer in between doing the passenger and driver side. The difference will be noticeable immediately.
If that doesn't work, get a maf.. Again, 5 minute job tops with the simplest of tools.

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

Sounds like o2s to me.

Watch me be wrong though. That is the way it goes though.

LT1TA

iTrader: (17)

lol, i'm at the point where i dont mind replacing them both for the peace of mind you know, lol. i hope my tuner can work with the new maf. do you think it will be worth getting the slp maf? or a parts store maf will do? i'm going to buy the parts tomorrow during lunch and put them on when i get home. thanks so much you guys for the help. i will keep you posted.

lemons12

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As I stated, STOCK MAF!!!! Do not buy an SLP.. People have 10Xs more problems with them then they do stock MAFs. Stock MAFs are good up until around 500Rwhp or so, you will be fine.
It should be 10Xs easier for your tuner to tune your car with a good MAF as opposed to a bad MAF.

Although, if you had a bad MAF or o2s, your tuner should have known this and told you to replace them.

LT1TA

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haha, yep, we ran into one issue, i went lean after 4300 on each run. We figured it was the pump, so we replaced it. We kept the fuel almost 12.8- 13.2 the entire way through the gear after the new fuel pump.

i hate the fact that the car never acted up on the dyno at all. it waits until i sit in it. and i babied it home each time.

I will go with a stock maf. i'm surprised no one has mentioned to me about a camshaft postion sensor. I'm glad, because it's a bitch to get to.

lemons12

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Cool man, keep us updated!

LT1TA

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ok,now i've checked the lengths of the vette plugs, and they don't have any longer than 12.2. Which is the same size as the one's for the t/a. But the t/a has some that are 16.4" and 22" or so. Shouldn't i be going for those to get the longer length?

lemons12

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IIRC this is the part number.. 13111

Can someone verify?

LS6427

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Densos........the best sensors made.

$43.00, I think this is the ome with the long wires.

http://www.amazon.com/Denso-234-4087...7781431&sr=8-1

www.rockauto.com has them for $39.00 each.

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LS6427

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I think thats a Bosch part number. I'd stay away from those sensors.

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lemons12

iTrader: (71)

Heard good and bad and all of them.. They fixed my problems. I would do those before I would do extensions.

LT1TA

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i think that's $43 just for the sensor itself. no wires. the bosch oxygen sensors has a 21.6 in. wire. : http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...065_1784_98501

LT1TA

iTrader: (17)

crap.. lol, uncertainty...

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...er=224863_0_0_

LS6427

iTrader: (2)

I've never seen a Denso sensor just come...as a sensor with no wire.

Amazon and Rockauto.....those prices are with the long wire. Bennett Auto also sells them cheap...with the wires. I have LT's and the wires are plenty long for me with the Densos, I have to fold and zip-tie the extra wire to the frame.

Call to make sure how long the wires are though, if you go with Amazon or rockauto.........

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1sick'98WS6

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Mine was doing something like this, running terrible, bad response. My o2 extension wires were melted on bank 1.

Runs great now after i replaced with a new extention and o2 sensor