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And no, you won't cool it too much.
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#23
In my first post, you'll see that the cooler is mounted away from the air dam a bit. When the dam scapes, it can't bend back far enough to hit the cooler. But its close enough to the dam that is protected from road kill, debris, etc.
#24
Today, I used the Advance Auto part that LS6427 used for this upgrade. I had noticed a PS fluid drip from the factory hoses a few weeks ago, so I parked the T/A until I could take a closer look. After reading several threads here, I knew to ditch the cooler and replace it with a tranny cooler.
I left the PS cooler in place and figured I'd just put a "block off" hose across the inlet and outlet tomorrow - in case it ever failed and the coolant would be contained. When I fired it up, I saw coolant dripping from lower fitting on the cooler. Grrrr. The coolant looks fine, so I think I dodged a big mess that was just around the corner. It's a 2001 with only 40K miles. I flushed the coolant about 1.5 years ago. (ironically, at the time I couldn't find the two upper hoses in stock anywhere, so I got a non-cooler single upper hose and cut it to fit - wish I'd heard about the PS cooler woes before then!)
I left the PS cooler in place and figured I'd just put a "block off" hose across the inlet and outlet tomorrow - in case it ever failed and the coolant would be contained. When I fired it up, I saw coolant dripping from lower fitting on the cooler. Grrrr. The coolant looks fine, so I think I dodged a big mess that was just around the corner. It's a 2001 with only 40K miles. I flushed the coolant about 1.5 years ago. (ironically, at the time I couldn't find the two upper hoses in stock anywhere, so I got a non-cooler single upper hose and cut it to fit - wish I'd heard about the PS cooler woes before then!)
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#25
I can't find the Perma Cool cooler like the OP used anywhere. I like the frame rail one since it comes with mounting points.
AZ does have a PS cooler for $20. Does this look like it will work?
Power Steering Oil Cooler.
AZ does have a PS cooler for $20. Does this look like it will work?
Power Steering Oil Cooler.
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If our cars didn't come with a PS cooler, can we install one like this? Does the PS fluid flow through this or are you passing coolant around your PS fluid? Never really payed much attention to the PS before haha.
#27
My SS is stick but it has a p/s cooler as a factory option. My car only has 30k on it and I haven't had any issues with the cooler. I don't drive it much at all, heck the p/s, brake and trans fluid are all factory still. I don't race my car, I'm wondering if I should look into doing something like this too.
#28
Something odd is going on with Perma-Cool. A google search for "Perma-Cool 1003" will pull up lots of places to get the cooler. It looks like Perma-Cool's web site is currently down. I'd suggest waiting until Monday and see what their web site does if trying to access my link above.
If your car didn't come with the cooler from the factory, check out the link in the OP. It explains that GM went to the cooler later in production to help deal with P/S pump seal failures. So, depending on how you drive, you can make the call if its a worthwhile thing to do.
If your car didn't come with the cooler from the factory, check out the link in the OP. It explains that GM went to the cooler later in production to help deal with P/S pump seal failures. So, depending on how you drive, you can make the call if its a worthwhile thing to do.
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Where is the factory PS cooler so I know what to look for and rip off my car?
Also when doing this install we need a special hose? Cant just go to vatozone and tell him give me 6ft of heater hose?
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Im having the same issue with my car. P/S fluid leaking from somwhere, I assuming from the bottom of the resovior. Im gonna check today. My alternator also died on me because of this problem. Looks like i will be doing what the OP did along with a truck alternator upgrade while im at it. Thanks for posting this up!
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Quick question on this:
Question 1:
The Autozone part number I was looking at was 911009, a two rib design. Small like the Perma-Cool, and specifically labled a Power Steering Cooler, 20 bucks.
They also have another one, part # 911403 (which I believe LS6427 used) that is a 4 rib design, and 40 bucks.
Which one do I get? Will there be a significant difference for me on the 2 rib vs 4 design? I want it to work, not be useless. My car is a Daily Driver that see's mostly 70mph, but in town I would like for it to work accordingly.
Question 2:
My car has 134k miles, and I am the 3rd owner. Only service records I can find are the radiator cap being replaced. I pulled into the parking lot at the dock last Wednesday and while I was checking in (Chevron) I noticed my car started steaming slightly right in the very front. REEKED of coolant. I couldn't detect WHERE the leak was coming from, but it was enough to get my belts wet. I had no tools on me, so I couldnt really get under the air filter assembly.
Temps never went up, and after 30 minutes of searching and the car cooled off, I checked the coolant level before I went on the boat. Still full....
I've been thinking water pump the last week.... then I came across this thread. Perhaps it's my stock PS cooler? Would a water pump drip out the weep hole enough to wet the belts completely? Car drove PERFECT for 2 1/2 hours straight.
Question 1:
The Autozone part number I was looking at was 911009, a two rib design. Small like the Perma-Cool, and specifically labled a Power Steering Cooler, 20 bucks.
They also have another one, part # 911403 (which I believe LS6427 used) that is a 4 rib design, and 40 bucks.
Which one do I get? Will there be a significant difference for me on the 2 rib vs 4 design? I want it to work, not be useless. My car is a Daily Driver that see's mostly 70mph, but in town I would like for it to work accordingly.
Question 2:
My car has 134k miles, and I am the 3rd owner. Only service records I can find are the radiator cap being replaced. I pulled into the parking lot at the dock last Wednesday and while I was checking in (Chevron) I noticed my car started steaming slightly right in the very front. REEKED of coolant. I couldn't detect WHERE the leak was coming from, but it was enough to get my belts wet. I had no tools on me, so I couldnt really get under the air filter assembly.
Temps never went up, and after 30 minutes of searching and the car cooled off, I checked the coolant level before I went on the boat. Still full....
I've been thinking water pump the last week.... then I came across this thread. Perhaps it's my stock PS cooler? Would a water pump drip out the weep hole enough to wet the belts completely? Car drove PERFECT for 2 1/2 hours straight.
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You may have a crack somewhere. I had a crack along the upper radiator hose mounting area and when I replaced the radiator, the crack was not visible. It was very hard to see. My old radiator was very dried out and brittle. I broke another hose mount just trying to remove the hose. This was on a 9 year old car. I put in a LT1 radiator for extra coolant capacity.
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I'm running the smaller version from o'reillys. Only difference I can see is that there isn't anymore fluid leaking out from the cap and I know forsure that my coolant isn't being contaminated.
#39
Quick question on this:
Question 1:
The Autozone part number I was looking at was 911009, a two rib design. Small like the Perma-Cool, and specifically labled a Power Steering Cooler, 20 bucks.
They also have another one, part # 911403 (which I believe LS6427 used) that is a 4 rib design, and 40 bucks.
Which one do I get? Will there be a significant difference for me on the 2 rib vs 4 design? I want it to work, not be useless. My car is a Daily Driver that see's mostly 70mph, but in town I would like for it to work accordingly.
Question 1:
The Autozone part number I was looking at was 911009, a two rib design. Small like the Perma-Cool, and specifically labled a Power Steering Cooler, 20 bucks.
They also have another one, part # 911403 (which I believe LS6427 used) that is a 4 rib design, and 40 bucks.
Which one do I get? Will there be a significant difference for me on the 2 rib vs 4 design? I want it to work, not be useless. My car is a Daily Driver that see's mostly 70mph, but in town I would like for it to work accordingly.
Question 2:
My car has 134k miles, and I am the 3rd owner. Only service records I can find are the radiator cap being replaced. I pulled into the parking lot at the dock last Wednesday and while I was checking in (Chevron) I noticed my car started steaming slightly right in the very front. REEKED of coolant. I couldn't detect WHERE the leak was coming from, but it was enough to get my belts wet. I had no tools on me, so I couldnt really get under the air filter assembly.
Temps never went up, and after 30 minutes of searching and the car cooled off, I checked the coolant level before I went on the boat. Still full....
My car has 134k miles, and I am the 3rd owner. Only service records I can find are the radiator cap being replaced. I pulled into the parking lot at the dock last Wednesday and while I was checking in (Chevron) I noticed my car started steaming slightly right in the very front. REEKED of coolant. I couldn't detect WHERE the leak was coming from, but it was enough to get my belts wet. I had no tools on me, so I couldnt really get under the air filter assembly.
Temps never went up, and after 30 minutes of searching and the car cooled off, I checked the coolant level before I went on the boat. Still full....
I understand that as the fluid gets contaminated, its more prone to overflowing the reservoir. I'd expect that a better cooler will give you longer between flushes but a new flush should take you back to the way it came from the factory.[/quote]
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That's exactly what I have planned when I get home. I'm going to flush the hell out of it to the point you'd think Katrina happened in my yard. Well, it did....
I wouldn't think the water pump would weep THAT much, and just suddenly out of no where. The more I read, the more likely it seems to be the power steering cooler. Aside from that, I found a new bottle of Power Steering Fluid in the trunk when I bought her.
If it wouldn't have been for this thread, I NEVER would have suspected the PS Cooler.
Again, thanks to all, and I will update with Pics when I get home on Wednesday / Thursday.
I wouldn't think the water pump would weep THAT much, and just suddenly out of no where. The more I read, the more likely it seems to be the power steering cooler. Aside from that, I found a new bottle of Power Steering Fluid in the trunk when I bought her.
If it wouldn't have been for this thread, I NEVER would have suspected the PS Cooler.
Again, thanks to all, and I will update with Pics when I get home on Wednesday / Thursday.