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Old 12-03-2010, 03:46 PM
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:52 PM
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A failed starter motor/solenoid will not throw a DTC.
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Originally Posted by 99huggerorangeZ
A failed starter motor/solenoid will not throw a DTC.
That's what I thought! ... Thanks.

... I have another thread going on in the tunning section and the problems I've already addressed were a p1637 & p1626. ... Actions already taken were bench testing the alternator and battery (both good)... Exctiter Wire from alternator changed. Romoved PCM from the car and had my Tuner turn my VATS "off". ... Now, I'm not throwing any codes but she's still not turning over.

Only thing(s) left to check or try are the starter, starter relay or passkey bypass and big thick battery cable.

.... Good times!



This is "process by elimination" at it's retarded best! ... If anyone can mention a variable that i haven't considered, I'm all ears. ....Opinions?



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BTW, I swapped the original starter out about a year and a half ago with a REFERBISHED starter. ... If it's the starter, I'm never buying a refurbished anything ever again!
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Ummm, testing the starter should have been one of the very first things you tested if the car isn't cranking. I would say before sending the PCM out, and bench testing the alternator and battery. Definitely check out the starter. And yes, seeing that you bought a refurb, I would highly suspect that to be the culprit. I don't buy any rebuilt or refurbished garbage because they simply don't last. It's usually not worth it in the long run.
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... I know, I know! I feel stupid for not testing it first. ... BUT...

...I bench tested the starter. The small gear would not protrude and engage. .. Bought a new starter. Put it in. ..... CAR STILL WON'T START!!!! ... ... I feel like punting a small child right now!

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When you turn the key to start, does your voltmeter drop down to 9V (or so), or does it stay up...?
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Originally Posted by joecar
When you turn the key to start, does your voltmeter drop down to 9V (or so), or does it stay up...?
It stays up near 13. It doesn't drop.
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Btw, I plugged in a new starter relay to no avail.
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Originally Posted by WS6 Rampage
Btw, I plugged in a new starter relay to no avail.
double check your connections at the battery and starter
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Originally Posted by 99huggerorangeZ
double check your connections at the battery and starter
...What would I be looking for?
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Originally Posted by WS6 Rampage
...What would I be looking for?
loose connections
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Originally Posted by 99huggerorangeZ
loose connections
Gotcha. ... It's not going to be that, I guarantee!

...Next!
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Originally Posted by WS6 Rampage
Gotcha. ... It's not going to be that, I guarantee!

...Next!
does the starter make any noise at all? you could try and tap on the starter housing and have someone crank it over at the same time.
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Originally Posted by 99huggerorangeZ
does the starter make any noise at all? you could try and tap on the starter housing and have someone crank it over at the same time.
If your referring to the "*click* *click* *click*" sound, then no. ...
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Bad starter solenoid. This is located on the steering column.
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Originally Posted by KrisXpc
Bad starter solenoid. This is located on the steering column.
starter solenoid isnt located on the steering column its part of the starter assembly. i think you meant ignition switch. i would try what i suggested and have someone tap on the starter with a hammer while you crank it over,might just have a dead spot. worth a shot atleast.
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I had an ignition switch go out and it acted like that, the thin wires cracked over time. I replaced it with one from gm, but could have replaced the wires if your on a budget. It might be worth looking to check for obvious breakages. Maybe eliminating vats makes my suggestion wrong though.. Idk
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Well I just had someone try cranking it over while I was under the car. It sounds like the starter is working. Im just not hearing the **click** sound everyone knows and loves. ...

... I'm wondering if there would be any point in doing the passkey bypass if my VATS are tuned out already. .....??? ....
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sounds like you have a bad starter armature/solenoid. i would get rid of that refurbished POS or exchange it for another one.


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