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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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All stock SS with low mileage. Got an alignment today from a tire shop. Toe was slightly in on one tire. Rotated rear tires to front. Tires had no unusual wear and are in good shape. Car still constantly pulls to the left. Nothing is bent on fron suspension or steering. The car has not been in an accident.
No matter what road I drive on I have to keep constant pressure on the wheel to keep the car straight. I need to find out what the problem is. Suggestions are appreciated.

What else can I check?

Thanks.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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try rotating tires from side to side not front to rear. maybe possible 1 tire is bad. also have them road-force balanced. some balance machines can tell you what tire should go where on a vehicle to eliminate tire pull
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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if you know the alignment is not off then possibly wheel hubs. is there any bearing hum?
consider replacing both wheel hubs.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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We already swapped right to left before doing the rear to front swap on the tires. There is no bearing hum. There is no vibration at all at 85 mph and they checked the balance again today and the tires are balanced good.

Thanks for the ideas. I hope we get some more ideas.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Sticky caliper? Excessive/uneven wear on inner and outer pads and between driver and passenger side brake pads would be a start to look at.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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What was the chamber per side and caster per side? Did you get a print out of the specs?

Chamber and caster are pulling items that most shops will not mess with due to time.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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I have the printout for the alignment. Camber and caster are in spec. They said they are not adjustable in the camaro unless you drill new holes for the strut in the strut tower.

The brakes are pretty new. They checked to see if a caliper was sticking or pins were not lubed. All was well with the brakes.

Thanks for the ideas.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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If all else fails, take it out for a good flogging. Some powerslides and right handed donuts could knock it right.
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Camber and caster are definitely adjustable with stock suspension You might want to run by a different alignment shop and have them check things; I wouldn't trust the numbers from a shop that claimed camber wasn't adjustable on an f-body.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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Maybe they just didn't know how to adjust camber and caster on the camaro. Would you please tell me so I can use that information. Both sides camber and caster were at the outer edge of being in spec. So if I can tell them how to adjust both parameters then they should do it for free and the car will be fixed. So would you tell me how to adjust those? Thanks.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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i went through alignment problems on my 2002. Camber and caster is adjustable, and i had caster off i think on my right front which caused the car to pull slightly left on the highway.
Shops will claim that they always put a little more positive caster on the right front to compensate for road crown and a natural tendency for the car to always pull right because of it. In my opinion that's bullshit because what happens when you are on a road that is slanted left, the car will want to drive left and you have more of a problem. It went back to one shop 2 or 3 times then went to a different place who then got it right. So get even caster on both front wheels, or zero cross caster. Caster should be around +3.5° to +4°, the more positive caster the better the car will track straight and the steering wheel will return to center after a turn. I think max caster for the f-body is +4.5° after that it puts too much stress on steering components. But be sure to firmly state you want even caster numbers.
Recommended camber is 0° to +0.5°. I would shoot for 0.0 to +0.2°. It is also imperative that camber be as even as possible between right and left because that will also cause the car to pull especially if you have 275 series tires. And with toe you should have zero to 1/16" toe in which is the norm for every car. and whether you want to go with a little negative camber is up to you, some people recommend it for cornering.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jefffoxsr
I have the printout for the alignment. Camber and caster are in spec. They said they are not adjustable in the camaro unless you drill new holes for the strut in the strut tower.

The brakes are pretty new. They checked to see if a caliper was sticking or pins were not lubed. All was well with the brakes.

Thanks for the ideas.
Go to a REAL front end shop because this guy has no clue. If they are a front end shop and can't do an alignment i would not trust them to check anything else. lol. Everyone has already told you all of the possibilities, now follow thru.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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I am going to need to tell them how to adjust camber and caster or they will not do it because they are claiming that it can't be done. So do any of you know how to do it.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jefffoxsr
I am going to need to tell them how to adjust camber and caster or they will not do it because they are claiming that it can't be done. So do any of you know how to do it.
Yo dude WAKE UP.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 02:06 AM
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If you need to tell a shop how to work on your car something is wrong… turn around and run as fast as you can haha
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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the lower control arm is slotted where it meets the k member. you need to raise the car loosen the bolts and adjust the lower control arm to get the specs right. they make a special tool for f bodies but i always had better luck shifting the control arm manually. and yes like everyone else said go somewhere else it takes time to do it right and this shop is obviously more concerned with taking your money and setting the toe
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