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Before getting to the gauges always perform your visual inspection. We know the compressor is turning on. Checking for temperatures on the A/C lines is great information.
What you should do is put gauges on it and turn it on. If the compressor is running you should see low pressure readings in the 30's and high pressure reading in the 200 range and up. Its a place to start. I'll bet the compressor is worn out.
What you should do is put gauges on it and turn it on. If the compressor is running you should see low pressure readings in the 30's and high pressure reading in the 200 range and up. Its a place to start. I'll bet the compressor is worn out.
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It is a sensor not a switch, and the voltage from it correlates to high side system pressure so that the pcm knows when to turn the radiator fans on either low speed or high speed based on high side system pressure.
however no one here is quoting a 1980's system, which maybe you are thinking of clutch cycling? no one ever mentioned clutch cycling. The AC compressor on the 4th gen f-body is variable displacement, and its an orifice tube type system. the only thing the PCM does is send/remove power to the compressor clutch to engage/disengage it based on a set of conditions. one of the conditions is if the pressures sensor reports to the pcm pressure greater than 410 psi then the pcm will disengage the compressor clutch. the book also states if the sensor sees less than 30 psi it will disengage or not engage the compressor, which will only be valid prior to turning the AC on since the sensor is located on the high side.
In the book it does mention pcm scan tool data list and all it says is a typical value of 1.65 volts for 140 psi.
except for the pressure sensor, what i said above is fundamentally correct and applies to all automotive AC systems using R134a because the operating principle of refrigeration is the same. the compressor needs to pump and you would observe that with a set of mechanical gauges connected to the high and low side service ports and basically know what's what in 5 seconds.
what did you do (or not do) when you replaced the compressor? Did you replace it or did you have someone else do it?
It's not much different than an engine rebuild- you can do a horrible job but the engine will start and run well... for a short period of time.
There are lots of vehicles, that still have low pressure switches, which can cause the compressor clutch to cycle.
Let's say on a transducer system there was some sort of restriction, in the line, that caused the high side pressure to spike or the evaporator to freeze. You're saying it wouldn't cycle?
has a low pressure switch/sensor on the accumulator, and no high pressure switch/sensor. they go all different ways. it really doesn't matter.
and i never said "cycle the compressor". i said turn off, because the sensor detects low pressure because of low refrigerant in the system and shuts off the compressor. after system pressure from the high side equalizes to the low side and satisfies the low pressure sensor (if there is one) and your climate control is still calling for ac then the compressor will kick back on. then you will get a repetitive "cycling" of the compressor... because of low refrigerant in the system... which is not normal operation. I haven't scrutinized every different type of ac system out there and how the car maker chooses to implement **** is up to them.... gm probably screwed up using only a high side sensor and no low side sensor in the f-body which allows the compressor to run with low or no refrigerant in the system.... which also means lack of lubrication at the compressor and is probably why ls1maroonz needs a new compressor. he ran the compressor too long not knowing he was low, starved it of oil and now killed it. that's if he puts a set of gauges on the system and adds refrigerant to see if the compressor still pumps and creates and acceptable high/low side pressure difference.
and if you're installing an inline filter to "catch trash".... you got problems.
ac inline filters are b.s. the only purpose they serve is to make money for whoever sells them.
Last edited by 1 FMF; Apr 28, 2015 at 09:01 PM.




