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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 12:08 AM
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Default Can a 99 TA be driven without a dashboard?

I have to have the AC evap replaced, and thought I could save most of the labor if I remove the dash myself, since parts of the dash need to be replaced anyway.

Since the car is my DD, I need to know if the car can be legally driven without a dash. It is only 10-15 miles a day.
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 06:52 AM
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You might want to make sure the shop will do the work first. Some shops won't touch a car if someone has done part of the work and the customer wants to do the other part. It can leave them sitting with liability. Check with the shop first. As far as driving the car, how will you keep your cluster in place?
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If you are going to drive it to the shop, then you can be careful. If you are going to drive that like a DD, then the worry should be crash protection and the dash keeping us from cutting up our body parts and puncturing the air bag. We never know when that big one is going to come and the odds are much better than winning the lottery.

To answer your question directly, there are federal DOT and there would be local State regulations for motor vehicle equipment, so you would need to check those. (I am not aware of how dash boards are addressed specifically.)
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 09:36 AM
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If you are going to drive it to the shop, then you can be careful. If you are going to drive that like a DD, then the worry should be crash protection and the dash keeping us from cutting up our body parts and puncturing the air bag. We never know when that big one is going to come and the odds are much better than winning the lottery.

To answer your question directly, there are federal DOT and there would be local State regulations for motor vehicle equipment, so you would need to check those. (I am not aware of how dash boards are addressed specifically.)
I didn't think about the dash being any kit of reinforcement for the body, since it is all plastic. I will have to see if the DOT can tell me anything abour the requirement.
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by drdave88
You might want to make sure the shop will do the work first. Some shops won't touch a car if someone has done part of the work and the customer wants to do the other part. It can leave them sitting with liability. Check with the shop first. As far as driving the car, how will you keep your cluster in place?
Good point. I need to make sure it is legal before I tell the shop that I want to pay them less.
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Good point. I need to make sure it is legal before I tell the shop that I want to pay them less.
It's not so much a legal thing more than a liability thing. You rip the dash out, they fix the AC, you put it back together and then the AC doesn't work. You think it's something they did. They don't want that coming up, because so many shops have been burned on stuff like that before. A lot of shops won't even let you bring in your own parts, because if you buy some no name brand whatever part, they put it on and it breaks, they tend to get blamed for installing the part wrong. It's just an easy way for them to avoid a headache.
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Old Aug 14, 2019 | 06:32 AM
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Take to shop, have them evac the A/C system, r&r dash and evap on your own, take back to shop and have them suck down and recharge the system. No need to make it any more complicated and drive around with no dash carrier in the car.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
I didn't think about the dash being any kit of reinforcement for the body, since it is all plastic. I will have to see if the DOT can tell me anything abour the requirement.
It's not that the dash is structural. There is a heavy metal bar (like a roll bar) behind the dash that does that job. (I'm not sure if it comes out with the dash, or not but expect not.)

It's more that behind the dash is jagged metal and hard parts, which the plastic dash protects us from. In a crash, the back of the air bag and our body parts not touching the air bag fly up into the dash. The design of the dash keeps all of those soft things (including our bodies) from getting cut up.

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Originally Posted by biketopia
Take to shop, have them evac the A/C system, r&r dash and evap on your own, take back to shop and have them suck down and recharge the system. No need to make it any more complicated and drive around with no dash carrier in the car.
I am having them do the evap cause they are givine me a lifetime warranty. They already did the AC comp with a lifetime warranty.
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