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Old Mar 28, 2023 | 09:35 PM
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I have a '01 Trans Am WS6 and my driver side window stopped working and wouldn't go down. I took my car to a local shop and they told me that there was a problem with the regulator and it needed to be replaced. They ordered an after market regulator and motor combo from the local shop down the street and the window worked again. The only problem is when the window is going up and reaches the halfway point you hear a clicking noise the rest of the way up. The window goes up smoothly without any issues, it just makes the clicking noise like the teeth are grinding. They picked up a second regulator motor combo from the same shop and the second one is even worse than the first one. The shop doesn't know what to do since GM no longer makes OEM parts for the car. Can someone please recommend a window regulator/motor combo to use that will work without any issues.
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Old Mar 29, 2023 | 06:04 AM
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Try this one…lifetime warranty on The part…btw, this is an easy part to change.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=15596&jsn=416
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Old Mar 29, 2023 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDragon009
clicking noise like the teeth are grinding.
That is exactly what is happening.

Originally Posted by RedDragon009
They picked up a second regulator motor combo from the same shop and the second one is even worse than the first one. The shop doesn't know what to do since GM no longer makes OEM parts for the car.
The issue is that the shop doesn't know what they are doing.

Can you share a picture of the door with the door panel off? Even without seeing the inside of the door, it will tell us a lot about what is going on and what you need to do. ... It's probably not the parts.

If it is the parts, Dorman makes direct-fit parts - but that's not your issue.

Going forward, you'll need to find a shop that can handle this car if you don't do the work yourself. The local forums on this site may help in finding a place to go.
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Old Mar 29, 2023 | 09:57 PM
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I just got though (kindof) w/ a door swap & window and regulator swap in driver door posted in body repair.
I felt like I was talking to myself bc I got zero advice maybe I should move my thread to this section bc I'm still needing adjustments on all 3 door upper seal/window leans inward and regulator being real slow even w/ a new window motor.also mirror mount needs adjusting.

op I opted for used reg. I prefer oem stuff over some after market stuff from a forien country that hates us.

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I got zero advice maybe I should move my thread to this section bc I'm still needing adjustments on all 3 door upper seal/window leans inward and regulator being real slow even w/ a new window motor.also mirror mount needs adjusting.
That would probably be good, although the fix is to follow the step-by-step alignment instructions on the shbox site. The are not intuitive and need to be followed exactly one-by-one.
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Old Mar 30, 2023 | 09:41 AM
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That would probably be good, although the fix is to follow the step-by-step alignment instructions on the shbox site. The are not intuitive and need to be followed exactly one-by-one.
thanks brother I completely forgot about the shoebox write ups.

my current problem is adjusting the top of window it's seams to be tilted inward, I believe the upper seal is putting inward pressure on window bc I can't get it positioned properly. so door doesn't close w/ window all the way up.






what I'm reduced to is when outside gently push door to body then push w/ my knee.when inside car I pull door to bodt then ****** it inward.

I never noticed the allen head adjusters inside the long vertical rail never even read about them I asumme loosen the nuts hold nut w/ wrench an adjust w/ allen bolt while door is close to body but not completely closed?



I can't figure out what I'm looking at for the front window tilt in shoeboxs image below this red doors image it appears to be to right of yellow circle?
that would be the red circle in 2nd to last image. thanks for advicing.
I wish shoebox would have writeups on the top and bottom seals.
op sorry to hijack your thread.







door closes properly w/out seal will adjust allen bolts an report back

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my current problem is adjusting the top of window it's seams to be tilted inward, I believe the upper seal is putting inward pressure on window bc I can't get it positioned properly. so door doesn't close w/ window all the way up.
If your problem is inward and outward, its probably the stabilizers set improperly. I'm not sure what those Allen screws are for. I don't recall they adjust any of the stops that constrain the window.
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If your problem is inward and outward, its probably the stabilizers set improperly. I'm not sure what those Allen screws are for. I don't recall they adjust any of the stops that constrain the window.
no I don't think the 2 white adjusters are holding window to far inward bc theres a big gap inbetween the window and the seal this gap is twice the size of the amount the seal is pressed inward.
what I'm saying is the adjusters need to be pressed outward half the size of the gap.

I'll try to adjust the allens I hope later today.

I'm convinced the upper seal is the culprit. I've sean only one video




window sweep press upward on the clips to remove, video never showed how to reinstall pressing down on each clip didn't work.
in comments someone suggests to use U clips and screw into sweep an door.
are U-clips the same type of clip that holds the underneth panels to the front bumper (for example) u-clip slides over a piece then the screw attachs the 2nd panel.
https://www.google.com/search?q=u+cl...client=gws-wiz


guy guy totalley skips over the title of his video

4th Gen F-body Outer Window Seal Replacement



unforchantly ppl just skip the reinstall of the sweep just read the unanswered comments.


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So, with the outer seal on, the geometry of the window is off such that the door can't close and the binding is on the rear edge of the door?

If there is a drag, I still think it's the stabilizers. (The two felt pads on the inner part of the window that push outward.) Usually, people have these adjusted so they push outward too far and would create too much friction against the outer seal at the end of the window travel. The stabilizers contact the glass during the middle of the motion and as the glass closes, they shouldn't contact the glass. When they do, they drag on the glass, slow the mechanism and create a cascade of problems.

The shbox site has the procedure for adjusting the stabilizers.
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No the top of window is leaning inward to much the door can still close but it’s putting unwanted pressure on window.

The 2 white adjusters (stabilizers) are to push window outward. The windows bottom also needs pushing outward needs to be pushed outward bc there’s a big gap inbetween seal an lower window.

Again top of window is leaning inward.



When window is rolled down the length of the top weather seal wraped around door , door will open an close perfectly when door is closed then I can finish rolling up but strains motor.



I’ve managed to adjust my new door backward creating the proper gap between door a ¼ panel.I adjusted backward at hinges which I have accomplished w/ this new door so the back of window sits perfectly to weather seal wrapped around body an roof.



The top of window is leaning inward to much also the bottom of window appears to be maybe not leaning but to far inward thus the gap at window an door seal.

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Originally Posted by badmfkr
The windows bottom also needs pushing outward needs to be pushed outward bc there’s a big gap inbetween seal an lower window.
If the bottom of the window is not in the right place (inward/outward) then the allen bolts/jacknuts would be the adjustments to make and they come before the stabilizers. The allen screws move the top of the vertical sliders, which situates the bottom of the window in space once it is shut. I expect taking the shbox instructions from the top, should get you where you need to be. http://shbox.com/1/adj_window.html

Anything not right at the top of the shbox list, can make the items towards the bottom worse.
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attempted to adjust the window w/ the allen bolts, didn't touch the white stabilizers bc window need to be moved outward.
I loosened the nut on outside of bolt held it w/ regular wrench then adjusted the allen bolt window didn't move either direction but I did observe the allen bolt going in an out.

guess I'll be checking into the clip bolt an position that dam seal. thanks
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additional comments to last post.
yes I did adjust the hinges a tad backward to get window fitting properly in weather seal which I accomplished.also the gap at rear of door was reduced where it should be.
I'm now thinking where the door attaches to the hinges the bottom could possiablly be outward a tad, will be closely looking at that.
secondly I opened the pass door yesterday an noticed it's window also leaned in a tad. like pass door had a tiny gap inbetween the upper seal and bottom of window, this gap was much smaller but it was in fact there.

these doors are very long the window is heavier than a regular car. maybe this gap is normal bc of weight of window and I've never noticed or paid any attension to the gap. I'll post images of this gap in a new thread.

PS: can someone please check there rear of doors at window an seal for a small gap. thanks.
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