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Old Oct 19, 2024 | 06:03 PM
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My wiper delay feature on my multi-function lever hasn't worked for awhile, and neither has the cruise set feature. I seem to recall that there was some sort of ratcheting mechanism to the delay settings. The ACDelco lever no longer available, so I ended up with a reproduction lever. But both my ACDelco and reproduction behave the same way when installed. Cruise set doesn't work, outer ring of lever rotates freely without any change in behavior. The inside 'Press' tab works when I push it. While finagling between the two levers, somehow the wipers have become stuck in the Low wiper speed and I can't seem to get it reversed. For now I pulled their fuse while they were low in the travel. I guess it's not the lever. Maybe something is stripped inside the column housing. My tilt is also fubar even with the larger than normal tile pins installed.

I also have a solid airbag light even though both original airbags are installed. A couple of years ago I took it to the dealer and they found stored codes B1015 & B1021. Driver & Passenger deployment loop high resistance. Dealer claimed "Needs driver & passenger airbag.".I cannot find any information that indicates whether the airbags would still function. Driver side is relatively easy swap, but it looks like driver is a PITFA to swap. I wouldn't mind keeping those features if replacements are available and the rest of the SRS system works.

My first priority is correctly operating wipers, then tilt, then SRS. Does anyone sell complete steering column assemblies, at least from the firewall to the airbag area? Everything new except for steering wheel & tilt lever, with matching keys, etc? If not where do I start? Wiper motor? Wiper switch? I ordered out of stock PN 12367295 off Amazon. I'm looking for the easy button to fix everything in the column even if it costs extra.
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 10:19 AM
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The actual wiper switch is actually buried deep in the column and is the part that the turn signal lever/multi-function lever snaps into. Mine was malfunctioning and when I pulled my multi-function lever out of it, the process of that removal completely destroyed it... (the plastic couldn't survive that process)

The only part of the multi function lever that does anything is the button. All other functions are controlled by the switch in the column.

Here is a thread I created when I replaced mine: https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...mn-repair.html

I didn't get all the pictures of actually replacing the switch. It took all day and involve a lot of contortions, little pins and swearing.

This guide has more info: https://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/...ck_Rebuild.pdf
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 11:31 AM
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I found the "Wipers Always On" section of my '98 Helms manual on page 8-171, step 4 refers to disassemble/reassemble multi-function switch section (which I can't currrently locate). But more importantly, if mine is fubar or breaks on removal, where do I find a replacement? I'm not yet seing a GM PN to reference, and if I google wiper switch about all I get is the multi-function lever.

This looks similar, but it says only for Jeep
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c...tch/std0/ds572

I found these but they look nothing like page 39 of the Jazzman guide.
https://www.classicindustries.com/pr...s/1995963.html
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c...?q=2TSS2&pos=0
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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This is what the part looks like:


The instructions you are looking for are in Section 2 of your Helm (GM Factory Service) Manual with the detail on the steering column.

I suggest using a GM parts lookup to find the part number for your switch and having it on-hand before you start a repair. There are many part numbers, depending on your options for this part and you may need to wait to get it. (So, you don't want to have your column all apart waiting 2 weeks for a switch.)

I think you will find the diagrams and instructions in your manual severely lacking. The Jazzman guide I linked above is invaluable.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 05:21 PM
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I looked in the official F-body parts guide and couldn't locate anything related to the steering column. I tried the Standard Prodcuts eCatalog without success. I'll keep searching, can it be called anything else besides a 'wiper switch'?.

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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 10:09 PM
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The new online parts catalogs have the related parts under Steering - Steering Wheel but the ones I just looked at no longer have the full range of parts.

I just looked back at my records from my repair in 2011 and it turns out I totally gagged at the price of a GM wiper switch and went for a Duralast SW883. That switch served me well, but it looks like that part no longer exists. (The manufacturer was actually Wells) So, I guess the aftermarket must have been fine on that. I did purchase the AC Delco Wiper Switch ARM 25140743 and would have sprung for that part since the screen printing was a visible thing. (The white lettering had worn off my original switch after 10+ years of use.)

I'm sure someone at a dealer could look up the original GM part number but we may be too far gone. GM Parts Giant has a part listed for my car. You may be able to find a part number that way and some comps, but this one looks hard to find... https://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/g...)&location=pd:,
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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This is a big shot in the dark, concerning your "cruise control" not working, I had a problem with mine when I replaced the brake lights with LED bulbs, with no load resistors, I guess the computer read it that both bulbs were burnt out. I switched back to the original bulbs, and my cruise control started working again.
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This is a big shot in the dark, concerning your "cruise control" not working, I had a problem with mine when I replaced the brake lights with LED bulbs, with no load resistors, I guess the computer read it that both bulbs were burnt out. I switched back to the original bulbs, and my cruise control started working again.
Thanks. I was so fixated on the wiper delay issue, I didn't think critically about this. The button on the stalk sets the cruise, so with that part being new, there must be some other issue causing the cruise control to false start on the set. (The wiper delay is most likely the wiper switch, which can be tested at the wires at the base of the steering column with some probes and a whole hell of a lot of patience. For that matter, the cruise control button can be double checked there, as well. Just disconnect the wires and test the button for continuity at the base of the column.)

For the cruise control:
- The LED cause could be one
- The brake or clutch pedal sensor could be another
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All of my exterior lamps use original OEM style bulbs. Most of my interior lighting is LED. I forgot about my stalk tonight, toggled my brights to attempt to tell the driver ahead of me to turn on their lights. Then I couldn't get my dang brights turned back off. Once I got into a parking lot, I managed to get them off.

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All of my exterior lamps use original OEM style bulbs. Most of my interior lighting is LED. I forgot about my stalk tonight, toggled my brights to attempt to tell the driver ahead of me to turn on their lights. Then I couldn't get my dang brights turned back off. Once I got into a parking lot, I managed to get them off.
The brights are a more straight-forward mechanim, but the lever does pivot on the wiper switch assembly. The pivot actuates a rod in the column that presses the actual brights switch at the base of the column. If the motion feels odd, that would also indicate a broken switch assembly for me. Putting the new lever in could have caused problems as it did in my case. (That act shattered a bunch of plastic in my switch.)
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Old Nov 6, 2024 | 05:33 PM
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My shop claims to have sourced new wiper & turn signal switches, but wants to install them on a column with a good tilt mechanism. I don't think I'll trust mail ordering such a column unless it's new, and the only new column I found previously (can't locate it now) that supposedly was compatible was >$1000. I could have my column pu8lled, shipped for repair, and shipped back, but it's down time on the only vehicle.

I could opt for something like this, which may incure more labor expense but likely is less expensive overall.
https://www.steeringcolumnservices.c...t-housings.php
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Is your tilt mechanism bad? There are threads here that have oversize pins to fix the slop. (But of, course a shop demanding that problem fixed is probably not going to want to deal with putting the pins in.)

I have always expected that the tilt slop was due to people moving the tilt frequently and was not something a single long-term owner would come across.
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Is your tilt mechanism bad? There are threads here that have oversize pins to fix the slop. (But of, course a shop demanding that problem fixed is probably not going to want to deal with putting the pins in.)

I have always expected that the tilt slop was due to people moving the tilt frequently and was not something a single long-term owner would come across.
Tilt went bad years ago. I've tried oversize pins without much success, pot metal just too wallowed out. Email from thar vendor says its the nature of GMs design on that column.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
I could opt for something like this, which may incure more labor expense but likely is less expensive overall.
https://www.steeringcolumnservices.c...t-housings.php
This place will do a full rebuild for you. I know this is your daily driver, but its getting to an age where you'll need to park it for major repairs like this.

Its painful, but you may have to move the Ferrari out of the garage and drive it around on the street for a bit while you get this taken care of.
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Originally Posted by SteveC
This is a big shot in the dark, concerning your "cruise control" not working, I had a problem with mine when I replaced the brake lights with LED bulbs, with no load resistors, I guess the computer read it that both bulbs were burnt out. I switched back to the original bulbs, and my cruise control started working again.
I had cruise control issues a few years ago and it turned out to be an intermittent open where the 12V feeds the cruise/AC fuse under the hood. If you can ohm the switch and verify continuity on the set switch. The other clue was that the AC would stop working too. Most likely not the OP's problem, but may help.
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