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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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I need to get my front aligned because the outsides are wearing down faster than the insides. Can you tell me if there is any special equipment for these camaros that I need to ask the shop if they have to get it set right so my new tires coming will wear evenly?
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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No special equipment.

Before they perform the actual alignment, have them make sure that the tie rod ends and the inner tie rods are in good shape and not worn out and loose. If they are worn out and loose it will be pointless to have an alignment done.

Thye ****** did this to my taurus, they aligned it with loose inner tie rods and it did absolutley nothing to fix the alignment. One I replaced the inners and had it aligned it was perfect and has been since.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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they should have a tool that looks like this
http://www.otctools.com/products/detail.php?id=2195
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Thank you for that. I just printed it off on my computer.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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i swear woman, youve had to have spent thousands on this car already.....sucks...
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Good thread. Smart question and good answer! I learned something here.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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I just get help from you guys because I get alot of bull from service shops here in memphis. I appreciate everyone helping me out and I appreciate your help with the oil pressure which has been doing good. I was trying to find out about the tool because I heard there was something special to use to get it right. The tires were shot when I bought the car. They have about 6 months left on them. They are wearing on the outsides so I have new tires waiting and don't want to use them up fast.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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No special tools at all.

Also the 4th gen F-body's (LT1 or LS1) dont have inner tie rods because they use a rack and pinion unit. Only have outer tie rod ends and upper and lower ball joints.
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No special tools at all.

Also the 4th gen F-body's (LT1 or LS1) dont have inner tie rods because they use a rack and pinion unit. Only have outer tie rod ends and upper and lower ball joints.

They do to have inner tie rods, who told you that they dont, hopefully it wasnt a auto shop.

The inner tie rod screws onto the rack assembly. The inner rod is what the tie rod end screws onto. I have changed out inner tie rods in rack and pinion systems before. Look at the attached pic, number 3 is the inner tie rod.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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when they are aligning the front end, do I want any kind of cant with the front wheels?
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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have them give you as much negative camber as they can w/o having to sacrifice too much caster. This will help with your problem of wearing on the outside of the tire.

I have my camber maxed out at -1.0° and still was able to keep my caster up there as well. If you are lowered the more likely you will be able to get some good negative camber w/o reducing your caster.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chevygirl
I just get help from you guys because I get alot of bull from service shops here in memphis. I appreciate everyone helping me out and I appreciate your help with the oil pressure which has been doing good. I was trying to find out about the tool because I heard there was something special to use to get it right. The tires were shot when I bought the car. They have about 6 months left on them. They are wearing on the outsides so I have new tires waiting and don't want to use them up fast.
and i know i enjoy helping you...as im sure the rest of the guys do....i just feel bad for ya
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Maybe so on the actual inner, but most shops do not service the rack. I have had two replaced on my car since it was new under warranty. GM and most shops around here dont mess with it and just replace the racks.
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
Maybe so on the actual inner, but most shops do not service the rack. I have had two replaced on my car since it was new under warranty. GM and most shops around here dont mess with it and just replace the racks.
Thats retarded considering inner rods are only like $30 and they are so simple to replace. It takes me like 30 minutes to swap them out, too easy. The rods arent part of the rack anyway, they just bolt to the rack.

If its the rack itself thats bad then that a different story, but for bad inner rods you can just cheaply and easily replace them.

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so chevygirl, where are u plannin on takin it to get aligned in memphis? Im from memphis too,what would be a decent shop to take it to over here. I just lowered my car and the guy said i should get an alignment as soon as possible.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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There is a place called Clarks alignment (Mike) or Serra Chevrolet in Bartlett.
I haven't decided which to use yet. Mike is nice at Clarks but I don't know if their equipment is as good as the dealer. Clarks is an old place that has been around for along time. Where do you live at? My car is not lowered. It is stock.
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I live in Germantown. Thanks for the help. Keep me updated on where u end up goin.
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if the rods are bad already. would a alignment say so? my friend was a mechanic before and he looked at my car and had guesses whats bad without taking the wheels off, but due to the slop in the tires he was thinking the ball joints or wheel hub was bad. would a alignment printout have these things show up? he said if it was really bad it might keep them from doing the alignment. but he wanted the printout and what the shop said to know what to replace. since we just have a driveway and limited tools here i guess he wanted to know whats bad without taking everything apart first.
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Originally Posted by ROB2000
if the rods are bad already. would a alignment say so? my friend was a mechanic before and he looked at my car and had guesses whats bad without taking the wheels off, but due to the slop in the tires he was thinking the ball joints or wheel hub was bad. would a alignment printout have these things show up? he said if it was really bad it might keep them from doing the alignment. but he wanted the printout and what the shop said to know what to replace. since we just have a driveway and limited tools here i guess he wanted to know whats bad without taking everything apart first.
You can tell if its the rod ends or the rods themselves by lifting the car and grabbing the left and right sides of the tire and wobbling it. If it wobbles and has any slop in it than either the ends or rods are bad. You can tell which it is by what part moves when you wobble the wheel.

To check the hub/bearing assembly you grab the tire on the top and bottom and try to wobble it top to bottom, if it wobbles its bad bearings/hub.
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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it wobbles left to right for sure, up and down it has more resistance, not sure if it was going to the sides a little when i was trying. it was dark out already and had been out there all day. my memory might be failing.



let us know how your alignment goes chevygirl
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