Gut Cats!! Help
On a different note, I got busted for loud Exhaust here in IL. At the time I had my stock exhaust with LM1. I tried to fight it at the police station(only 20.00) but still I tried. I was shown a paragraph that lists the law for Vehicle exaust. Vehicle Mufflers are not be changed/modified to increase exhaust note from Factory setup. So they got me there however that law is so messed up because motorcycles can be just as loud or louder than any car with a cut-out for cat back and that is ok for IL.
my god whoopdie ****** doo how many cops do you know are going to pull you over jack up your car pull your y pipe off and look to see if its got the **** in there...NONE!!!
Try to find out if your car falls under the GM campaign to replace faulty cats before you do anything. GM has issued extended warranty to 10yr/100(might be 120)k miles on LS1 cars.
It is possible you didn't get the letter if your car has changed ownership a few times and GM doesn't know where to send any notice.
It is possible you didn't get the letter if your car has changed ownership a few times and GM doesn't know where to send any notice.
Try to find out if your car falls under the GM campaign to replace faulty cats before you do anything. GM has issued extended warranty to 10yr/100(might be 120)k miles on LS1 cars.
It is possible you didn't get the letter if your car has changed ownership a few times and GM doesn't know where to send any notice.
It is possible you didn't get the letter if your car has changed ownership a few times and GM doesn't know where to send any notice.
I forgot about GM's extended camaign on the cats for our f-bodies. It's definetly worth checking into.
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Unbelievable! My point is still missed.
It does not matter if I have a cut-out,
It does not matter if I have long tubes,
It does not matter if I speed,
It does not matter if I live in NY,
It does not matter what I had for breakfast,
It does not matter what I or anyone does.
It doesn't change the simple fact that anyone removing the catalytic converts from their car is violating local & federal laws. Tuning or not, a visual inpsection at any dealership, in NY and many other states will fail the inspection.
My advice in this thread is to educate the new poster against this.
I see so many jumping on me becuase of this - isn't anyone else on this message board that might actually agree with me?
It does not matter if I have a cut-out,
It does not matter if I have long tubes,
It does not matter if I speed,
It does not matter if I live in NY,
It does not matter what I had for breakfast,
It does not matter what I or anyone does.
It doesn't change the simple fact that anyone removing the catalytic converts from their car is violating local & federal laws. Tuning or not, a visual inpsection at any dealership, in NY and many other states will fail the inspection.
My advice in this thread is to educate the new poster against this.
I see so many jumping on me becuase of this - isn't anyone else on this message board that might actually agree with me?
now if by visual inspection you mean the sniffer test then i agree with you.
If one was to gut their cats, which means removing them and welding in some straight pipes or something...there is EVERY way that a visual inspection will fail a visual test. Simply because there is no catalytic converter to visually inspect.
Guys, give up on M02H. He obviously feels it is his duty to be the Internet police. Or perhaps he believes that no one but himself understands smog laws, who the blazes knows.
AFAIAC, any poster should take Internet advice as just that: advice. Be intelligent and make your own decisions, and posters like M02H won't have a forum to preach at.
AFAIAC, any poster should take Internet advice as just that: advice. Be intelligent and make your own decisions, and posters like M02H won't have a forum to preach at.
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Someone else will probabaly correct you before I even finish typing this, but "gutting" the cats refers to taking, literally, the guts (honeycomb stuff) out of the cat with a hammer/chisel/what have you, leaving a hollow shell that is indistinguishable from a working cat to anyone looking at the exhaust system. The rear O2 sensors will know the difference, but the naked eye won't.
I have read thru this thread and realize that the original poster has already made up his mind. But the comments by Michael02....putting on longtubes and moving the location of the cats is illegal...regardless of passing a sniffer test or not. I am not saying don't do them, I have a set on my car, but before you start saying its illegal to gut cats and one shouldn't break the laws or make excuses for doing it...please realize you are doing the same, just because you can pass a visual inspection doesn't make your setup anymore legal than someone who has gutted their cats or replaced it with an ORY.
Just my 2 cents...
Just my 2 cents...
I mis-understood about 'gutting the cats', taking the insides out vs. removing them. In that case, yes, your right, a visual inspection would indeed pass.
how do you not understand "gutting" a cat. he did not say "removing" them. i actually sat here and read this whole thread because of all the dumb things that were said. its very contradicting that m02h said not to break the law but by the way he has done so himself. is this a case of 'do as i say not as i do'? this thread was a prime example of hypocrisy.
im not saying remove them or gut them. what reason would you have to do so anyway? its not a drag car with the modifications that would benefit from the extra exhaust flow so i suggest just replacing them.
that response right there would have saved a ton of time =)
im not saying remove them or gut them. what reason would you have to do so anyway? its not a drag car with the modifications that would benefit from the extra exhaust flow so i suggest just replacing them.
that response right there would have saved a ton of time =)
