ive never had an issue with kooks. the easy way to do it tho is to remove oil plug and filter. this will save you a little time.
i have done 1 set of passeters, and i know you mention you dont care about quality, but they where the worst, cheepest crap i have ever seen and i would never install a set again. i did it once, another guy asked me to do a set in his car, i said no, i would not put my name on a crap product.
they fit ok, but in this case, you get what you pay for.

sorry if i offend anyone, just giving my opinion

 

So you feel THAT strongly about ONE set you put on? No possible chance of that one set being bad/crap?

 

the supermaxx system i had on my 98 z-28 was easy. All bolt on,stainless,no fitment issues whatsoever

 

they lasted about 3 weeks befor they started to rust and crack the coating. they do not even clean the slag off the welds, they use the cheepest lightest metal that might hold the heat. IMO they are junk, i would buy mac mids befor i got them. i put one set on and looked at the other set and they looked the same. i am all about good parts, using what works. people want to work on a budget and i 100% understand that however my Rule number 1 to myself was always this
#1 if you cant buy the good parts the first time wait a week, 3 weeks or a year till you can afford them, do not cheep out.

and so far that rule has paid off for me and every car i have built.

 

pacsetters go in good. Ive installed a lot of them when I worked at new era on lifts. I htink I did one set of the gound when the shop was packed. One trick was to make a little more room on the passanger side heat sheild. The collector gets close. There a good new header for the price, but they will rust and look like ****. Most only last a few years, if somone keeps then they rust out near the colletor. Ive installed every other set. and ARH are the easist and better fitting to other parts on the car. Ive installed mine a few times on jack stands alone. they are still in the same shape as when I got them. its worth it.

 

Quote is true and the fitment, quality, service, and merge collector is first rate.

Pics are ARH 1 7/8 - lots of room.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18359304@N07/3471523278/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1835930...7602956888623/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1835930...19438/sizes/l/

Tip: Go stainless and be done with. If you get coated, after a couple of years you will not be happy with coated.

 

Wow! That looks absolutely beautiful! I was curious if the ARH Merge would fit with my Spohn T/A-Underbody Brace Setup. The first photo answers my question. I just finished my Jet Hot LT install a couple weeks ago, but when they go **** I'm upgrading to ARH. Your exhaust looks great. Good job.

 

Pacesetters. Hands down. Dont rub or hit anything and I didnt have to modify my car in any way. I unlike some others WILL NOT hack or cut a section out of my car for some poor quality product.

 

Hey thanks a lot once again guys. My friend with an 01 Cobra put in Mac LTs and he apparently had to remove his K member and I don't want to have to do all that if there's something easier out there, and from everything I'm hearing, it all sounds pretty easy, so yay for f-bodies, even if the engine can't be pulled from above like my 88 Camaro haha.

And I have LM exhaust right now with High-flow cats and I love it. To be completely honest, I wish it was louder most of the time, so when I install headers, I will probably gut my cats (I have O2 sensor simulators behind the cats). But, to each his own, you know, that's just me.

 

Don't gut your cats just yet it will be way too loud and raspy...If you gut them you will hate yourself for it in the long run!

 

so what should i put in my y pipe to kill rasp? ill be running ory (check sig) with a magnaflow catback???

 

i just put a set of Kooks Headers and Y-Pipe with Cats on my 02 SS. it already had the Loudmouth 1 on it, and i LOVE the sound, it's really not much louder until you get on it IMO. cruising around in 6th gear it's not a bit louder than it was with just the Loudmouth. mine went in very easy as well, i didn't have to force them in at all. i didn't have to take the oil filter out either, they were not even close to hitting it going in.

 

Ditto - wait on gutting the cats until your hear the difference betweene long tubes and your stock exhaust manifolds. There is a huge difference in sound after installing LT's.

 

Pacesetters were EASy as hell, I didnt mod or change anything about them. Ive also done the stainless ebay headers with no problem either.

 

my macs went in easy from the top, during a cam swap. The coilpacks and valve covers were out of the way.

 

Dont know what Noyzee is talking about. My Pacesetters have been on for two years, Ive driven thru snow, rain etc with them. Summer months, winter, and they still look nice and coated and shiny.

 

I'm with him. Get a borlamouth or magnaflow if you're budget minded. Or else just step up to GMMG.

 

My LPP headers were a dream to install. I'm sure the header studs helped some.

 

well, you must have gotten the good set. i have swapped out 2 sets already that people put in and they ripped them out because they looked like hell in less then 2 years.
my buddy just ripped his out as well. his where 4 years old, but had no coating left at all. he put kooks on. picked up good MPH as well with his swap, and the one set i installed new about 2 years ago has been rusted for a year now and the owner is looking into swapping them this fall. car is kept inside 50% of the time and only sees rain if he gets stuck in it. i can only tell you what ive seen, and as most people know im not blowing smoke up anyones ***.