WHat is the best header on the market?
11-09-2003, 10:12 PM
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Mike, I always give my honest opinion, no B.S. here! And that is sometimes embarrassing because I have screwed up and put the wrong damn parts on my car from time to time.
The XR1 I used is the Oval Offset, not the round one that looks like a bullet muffler. It's straight through, but still amazingly quiet, at light throttle. Once you put your foot in it, it's loud, but that's what I like about it, you have control over it. At idle and light throttle, it's much quieter than the Loud Mouth with stock cats, and no drone or rasp (but still louder than stock.) At WOT, it sounds much like the LM without cats, only not quite that loud and raspy. Kinda NASCAR like sound . . . It's more throttle dependant than rpm dependant; makes a nice racket even at 2300 rpm but only if you have your foot in it!
I sawed my LM resonator in half with a cop saw and used the two pieces as 4 inch to 3 inch and 3 inch to 4 inch adapters, hence "BorlaMouth." I couldn't afford the QTP Y pipe, so I modifed the SLP Y to fit the QTP headers by cutting the end connectors off and spreading it wider with a hydrallic ram . . . this is a temporary measure until I get a real 4 inch system.
I think you will like the Borla XR1 Oval, but it's expensive. I screwed up and ordered it direct from Borla because I got in a big damn rush, but latter discovered Jegg's had it for a much better price.
The XR1 I used is the Oval Offset, not the round one that looks like a bullet muffler. It's straight through, but still amazingly quiet, at light throttle. Once you put your foot in it, it's loud, but that's what I like about it, you have control over it. At idle and light throttle, it's much quieter than the Loud Mouth with stock cats, and no drone or rasp (but still louder than stock.) At WOT, it sounds much like the LM without cats, only not quite that loud and raspy. Kinda NASCAR like sound . . . It's more throttle dependant than rpm dependant; makes a nice racket even at 2300 rpm but only if you have your foot in it!
I sawed my LM resonator in half with a cop saw and used the two pieces as 4 inch to 3 inch and 3 inch to 4 inch adapters, hence "BorlaMouth." I couldn't afford the QTP Y pipe, so I modifed the SLP Y to fit the QTP headers by cutting the end connectors off and spreading it wider with a hydrallic ram . . . this is a temporary measure until I get a real 4 inch system.
I think you will like the Borla XR1 Oval, but it's expensive. I screwed up and ordered it direct from Borla because I got in a big damn rush, but latter discovered Jegg's had it for a much better price.
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11-10-2003, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WOT
i was just wondering why you would want to run cats with the longtubes?
Some of us unlucky people have to pass emissions every now and then
Anyhow its nice because it gets rid os *some* of the stank smell of longtubes, also quiets down the car a bit
11-12-2003, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
qtp are stainless steel and dont use coating. and there only 799 direct from qtp for emissions headers and 724 for race headers.
11-12-2003, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by StuN636
What exactly is the difference between the race and emissions headers? I mean you can run cats on both of them right?
11-17-2003, 06:13 PM
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If I have stock manifolds, and borla all the way back from the stock manifolds, what happens to the borla when I get headers? I am going to get kooks or QTP, but what do I need to hook them up to the borla?
11-18-2003, 04:07 PM
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As i was saying before in another post i am getting the flp system for 700 bucks slightly used, do you guys think i should still stick with that for the money? and i heard someone say something about them rusting, waht is the deal with that? and how is the fit with the flps, do i need to fab anything up?
11-18-2003, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
the drivers side i had to grind down the block tap on the engine to get it to slide in
Originally Posted by Bowtieman4life
I have Jet Hots and had no problem installing them. I didn't have to grind anything.
Both of you guys sai that u have Jet Hots and one had fitment issue and the other one doesnt? can i get some more opinions here?????
Thanks!
11-18-2003, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1z01
Which exhaust are you guys saying that has a fitment issue?
Both of you guys sai that u have Jet Hots and one had fitment issue and the other one doesnt? can i get some more opinions here?????
Thanks!
Both of you guys sai that u have Jet Hots and one had fitment issue and the other one doesnt? can i get some more opinions here?????
Thanks!
every car is a bit different. some people have problems and some dont. its just the nature of installing mods. you wont know until you get yours.
11-18-2003, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
every car is a bit different. some people have problems and some dont. its just the nature of installing mods. you wont know until you get yours.
Thanks!
11-18-2003, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1z01
Is there any brand out there besides shorty? Mac midlength....that will guarante i wont have a install issue?
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even the though some headers have a bit of issues its nothing that cant be fixed easily.
11-20-2003, 04:54 PM
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$700 for a full set of FLPs' is a great deal, I just picked up a set of TTS's with cats and y for $500 from someone local, so mine goes back up on ramps and blocks this weekend.