What happened to all the LSX intake hype?
I also talked to Wilson Manifolds at PRI. First I saw one at the Katech booth and he said to go to the Wilson booth to see an exlpoded version. They said 15 HP over the LS6 on a stock LS1. I would find that amazing...
Originally Posted by ChevyWeatherman
I also talked to Wilson Manifolds at PRI. First I saw one at the Katech booth and he said to go to the Wilson booth to see an exlpoded version. They said 15 HP over the LS6 on a stock LS1. I would find that amazing...
, its on my birthday list next year. 
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Originally Posted by ChevyWeatherman
I also talked to Wilson Manifolds at PRI. First I saw one at the Katech booth and he said to go to the Wilson booth to see an exlpoded version. They said 15 HP over the LS6 on a stock LS1. I would find that amazing...
Wilson is also making both the 77mm and 90mm billet TBs for it. They use OEM TPS and IAC. Only cable throttle available at first because the C5 throttle-by-wire is tricky to duplicate/adapt. I'm guessing they will adapt the motor and geartrain from the OEM C5 throttle body.
I'd like to clarify that it was actually a guy at the Katech booth that gave me the 15 HP over LS6 quote. They had one sitting on a motor right there, I got him confused with the Wilson guy, who I guess is providing even more hype!!
[QUOTE=Old SStroker]The numbers we heard @ the Wilson booth were 18 over an LS6 which is about 12 over an LS1. It is certainly a quality manifold. Of course anything that Wilson is involved in is top shelf.
looks like l'll be getin one in a few months if those numbers hold up
looks like l'll be getin one in a few months if those numbers hold up
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Originally Posted by ChevyWeatherman
I'd like to clarify that it was actually a guy at the Katech booth that gave me the 15 HP over LS6 quote. They had one sitting on a motor right there, I got him confused with the Wilson guy, who I guess is providing even more hype!!
Yeah, I talked with both Katech and Wilson also. I believe Wilson did the airflow design and testing, but Katech may have tested them also. Katech had some interesting stories abut building the 13.6 L V-16 for GM. Yeah, the 1000 lb-ft hype from GM was a fib...Katech has gotten 1015 lb-ft on the dyno.
My take is that if 15-18 hp over the LS6 doesn't pan out in independent testing, a TON of tooling money for the manifold won't get recouped. I couldn't get anyone to admit how much it cost to tool these manifolds, but my guess is it would buy a few Z06 Vettes.
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Originally Posted by spectacle solutions
to be exact...about 8 Z06's
I'm not sure where your info comes from, SS, but your location says a lot.
Personally, my guess at total design, development, tooling and initial marketing was about 4 Z06s. I guess Hofstadter's law applied here.
...location says alot doesnt it...... 
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[QUOTE=Old SStroker]The numbers we heard @ the Wilson booth were 18 over an LS6 which is about 12 over an LS1. Of QUOTE]
Just wondering, are you saying that the LS1 intake makes more power than the LS6...I cant wait to get some reviews on the LSX looks to be a great design.
Wes
Just wondering, are you saying that the LS1 intake makes more power than the LS6...I cant wait to get some reviews on the LSX looks to be a great design.
Wes
will it give 20 hp to the stock H/C and bore motor, or is there a certain combo that this intake works best with. reason i ask is folks say that the ls6 intake doesnt give significant increases over the ls1 if the motor is bone stock. so is this an intake for everyone or just the highly moded few?
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Originally Posted by spectacle solutions
20 over the LS-1...15 over the LS-6
Like someone already said, it sounds like it will be around 30 over the LS1. More of course with H/C. I guess I better start saving
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[QUOTE=onebadz] Wes,
The quote was meant to say that an LS6 intake makes about 12 more hp than an LS1, and the LSX made about 18 more than an LS6 for a total of 12 + 18 = 30 over an LS1 intake. Those were the numbers quoted to me. My guess is that's at the flywheel as that is how most engine testing is done. The good thing is they said there were increases at every rpm from 2000 up with no losses.
I'm sure we'll see lots of chassis dyno tests and drag strip runs with all kinds of engine combinations when the production manifolds hit the market. I'm guessing most will show gains over LS1 and LS6 manifolds. That's why FAST, or at least their owners, invested the big bucks for this item.
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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
The numbers we heard @ the Wilson booth were 18 over an LS6 which is about 12 over an LS1. Of QUOTE]
Just wondering, are you saying that the LS1 intake makes more power than the LS6...I cant wait to get some reviews on the LSX looks to be a great design.
Wes
Just wondering, are you saying that the LS1 intake makes more power than the LS6...I cant wait to get some reviews on the LSX looks to be a great design.
Wes
The quote was meant to say that an LS6 intake makes about 12 more hp than an LS1, and the LSX made about 18 more than an LS6 for a total of 12 + 18 = 30 over an LS1 intake. Those were the numbers quoted to me. My guess is that's at the flywheel as that is how most engine testing is done. The good thing is they said there were increases at every rpm from 2000 up with no losses.
I'm sure we'll see lots of chassis dyno tests and drag strip runs with all kinds of engine combinations when the production manifolds hit the market. I'm guessing most will show gains over LS1 and LS6 manifolds. That's why FAST, or at least their owners, invested the big bucks for this item.
My $.02
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I am excited as hell for this intake, been waiting forever, even though I just got to work on an LS engine. Very great modular design, and if you look at pictures, the runner taper is awesome. Velocity is really high in that thing.
Lets just hope it does make at least 30 hp of the LS1 intake, cause if not, they will be kicking themselves in the *** for spending loads on R&D.
Hunter
Lets just hope it does make at least 30 hp of the LS1 intake, cause if not, they will be kicking themselves in the *** for spending loads on R&D.
Hunter