hmmm.... thanks for chiming in Tony.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but i get the slight hint that you are not head over heals for the new 102. You pointed out the optimizations, but seems that you sort of liked the 90/92's better? Did I read into it too much, or are my internet mind reading abilities correct?

 

Everything I read up until this has said there is nothing to port on the new 102. Have any pics of the port work? Would also like to see a ported 92 against a non ported 102.

 

Get out your wallet, Ron accepts credit cards and cash. Call him. He will do the testing and you can post the results.

 

this is pretty awesome news for the 346 guys! glad to see huge cubes aren't necessary for this intake...although big cubes are fun.

keep up the good work! ill be watching more results as they come in!

 

Nice!

Any opinion as to whether similar or better gains will be made going from a ported 90mm to a ported 102mm on a H/C LS2?

 

Ron, any plans to do a test on Ported LSXR for ls3/l92

 

That's exactly what I was referring to. I was also curious if the "casting" lines that seem to run down the sides of each runner are hurting anything. Would it be worthwhile to epoxy those and smooth the runner? Thanks for the insight,

Larry

 

I would venture to say that most people would say stay away from epoxying anything in the intake. The chance that it could break off and get sucked into the combustion chamber is not worth the risk IMO... I've seen it happen...

 

No....not at all.

I actually like the new design alot. Or should I say it has more potential than the old design after reworking it. Or to sum it up even better its a better piece out of the box and a better piece ported IMO (compared to the 90/92 series) and so far based on Ron's dyno results it's showing the same trend I see in design and airflow potential on running engines (I haven't personally dyno'ed one yet). Is it perfect??.....no....I would have done a few things differently but its a step up from the older design and I like the construction and fit and finish nicer as well.

No....the casting lines aren't really an issue. In the new 245 head I cleared up the problem of the FAST sitting too low by slightly dropping the floor of the inlet port of the head....I figured the FAST on that head is going to be the manifold of choice for awhile and I wanted to optimize it with that particular manifold. I will post some pics in my official 245 release thread potentially this week.

-Tony

 

good to know...

 

I will volunteer for the LS3 test if you'd like a guinea pig for the 102 setup with one MAJOR IF. That "IF" being we can tune it like it's tune now.

 

ah, finally.. the results i expected.

 

he said a ported FAST 92 against a non ported 102 was no gain.

 

Im going to assume that based off the design of this manifold, eventually they will introduce alternative configured runners you can swap into the manifold based off your setup.

 

that would be a smart move...

but they'd probably charge like 2k for them

 

You must not have looked at the intake. You could simply pop out one runners and put in another, removable runners. We would only have to buy the runners.

I think people would start to cry if they did realease a race only runner. Everyone thinks they need "race" pieces on their street car. And wont realize that to make more peak horsepower, the intake would have to give up some torque in the low to midrange in order to make that peak power up top. As well as shift the RPM range higher.

 

yea i think all they intend for you to port on this model is just the port area where you would port match it to the heads. Im talking **** out of my *** though, you have like the larry bird of intake manifold porting in here, ask him, im just some jerkoff in ohio.

haha

 

Just checking in. Hopefully theres an update soon with more testing and full results.

 

Stay tuned for testing of a Vengeance ported 102mm LSXR against a Vengeance ported 92mm on a 440 LS7 stroker early next week!!!

 

And hopefully my 402 on the following Tuesday if I can get in. What do you say Ron ?