got my hooker headers in today.....did i get ripped?? pics*
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^^^ He knows what he's talking about. I thought they would leak myself, but after some research and shopping around for new headers myself some do come that way. I say put them on and if they leak send them back. The bung thing is kinda strange though. Every set of headers I've ever owned the bung was on the inside.
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well it seems like there are mixed feelings on how the flanges look and if they will seal properly or not... and i appreciate all the info.
can somebody comment on the o2 bung being on the outter part of the collector.... every pic i've ever seen on here of a header install the o2 sensors connect to the inner part of the collectors... on these, the bung on the drivers side is on the inner part but the bung on the passenger side is on the outter part of the collector.... you guys with hookers, are yours like that??
can somebody comment on the o2 bung being on the outter part of the collector.... every pic i've ever seen on here of a header install the o2 sensors connect to the inner part of the collectors... on these, the bung on the drivers side is on the inner part but the bung on the passenger side is on the outter part of the collector.... you guys with hookers, are yours like that??
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I can see there is only a couple of intelligent people in this thread. Do some research on what a milling machine is and what it does. All headers I have seen are welded from the inside of the primary. They chose to overweld them, then mill the welds flat to give you a true seal. As you can see its a full thickness weld around each primary, and even after they milled it flat, the weld is still wide enough to seal. Just bc its manufactured differently then another set of headers doesnt mean its a defect. Those headers WILL seal. End of thread. To the naysayers, they obviously dont know **** about ****. ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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Maybe some people should learn a little more about cars before saying something looks like ****, and they should send it back. When I build headers at work the flanges look just like that. I fully tig weld the headers together, run a large bead on the inside of the flange, then mill everything flat. That will also take out any warping that could have happened while welding.
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^^^^ He is right, most headers are manufactured this way, and will actually seal better than a header with a completely flat flange. This design will compress the raised area around the ports against the gasket. With a flat flange it will compress more at the bolts then around the ports.
Maybe some people should learn a little more about cars before saying something looks like ****, and they should send it back. When I build headers at work the flanges look just like that. I fully tig weld the headers together, run a large bead on the inside of the flange, then mill everything flat. That will also take out any warping that could have happened while welding.
Maybe some people should learn a little more about cars before saying something looks like ****, and they should send it back. When I build headers at work the flanges look just like that. I fully tig weld the headers together, run a large bead on the inside of the flange, then mill everything flat. That will also take out any warping that could have happened while welding.
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I have had 4 sets of headers, and all of which had the o2's on the inside of the headers. IMO, Either Hooker makes them that way (b/c I have never had hooker Headers) or that was just a mistake. I'd call Hooker and ask.
As for the Primaries at the Flanges, All 3 of my Pacesetter headers were that way, and even the set I have now are that way. As long as the headers are "true" all the way across, They'll seal just fine! You can check them with a runout gauge or a Flat piece of steel. Like a Ruler or Yard stick. Just use the edge of it and make sure it's straight and has less than .010" (I think it is) of warpage... Either way, as long as the gasket can seal against the header and head and compress a little, you'll be fine!
Good Luck!! And I would not have a problem running them on my car as long as they were true all the way across!
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As for the Primaries at the Flanges, All 3 of my Pacesetter headers were that way, and even the set I have now are that way. As long as the headers are "true" all the way across, They'll seal just fine! You can check them with a runout gauge or a Flat piece of steel. Like a Ruler or Yard stick. Just use the edge of it and make sure it's straight and has less than .010" (I think it is) of warpage... Either way, as long as the gasket can seal against the header and head and compress a little, you'll be fine!
Good Luck!! And I would not have a problem running them on my car as long as they were true all the way across!
Just my .02!
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They look fine to me, thats how the hookers were for my 68 Firebird. The flanges dont have to be flat, the tubes extend past the flanges so that when you tighten the bolts it puts more pressure against the gasket sealing area. If it were completely flat it would spread the torque out and would have less pressure on the gasket. If they are installed correctly and torqued evenly as headers should be, they will not leak.
EDIT: Pretty much what 99345hp said
EDIT: Pretty much what 99345hp said
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well i called the ws6store today and they said they were shipped directly from hooker and that they have never had any issues with them... but they would be more than happy to replace them if i wasnt happy... they have excellent customer service..
but after some of the past few responses i think i am going to go ahead and have them put on.... just need to know if i should use the stock gaskets or buy new gm gaskets... and if i get new gm gaskets where can i pick some of those up at?
also, the guy at ws6store said if i did decide to send them back i could order another set of hookers or i could get the jet-hot headers... what should i do?
but after some of the past few responses i think i am going to go ahead and have them put on.... just need to know if i should use the stock gaskets or buy new gm gaskets... and if i get new gm gaskets where can i pick some of those up at?
also, the guy at ws6store said if i did decide to send them back i could order another set of hookers or i could get the jet-hot headers... what should i do?
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Mine looked worse than that, the jet hot coating even coagulated on the bolt holes (manifold side) and they sealed up just fine with the gaskets that were included (actually Hooker forgot to put the gaskets and 02 extensions in the box but they did send them to me no problems). I'm happy as can be with my Hooker 2468-2HKR Longtubes and custom 3" exhaust. See my Garage for a pic of the exhaust system.
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