BG Ram Air
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
hmmmm, how hard is it to remove the baffles?
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I just bought a BG from someone...it's currently being shipped. After reading all of this.....I can't wait to get it!! I just hate having a "fake" Ram Air hood on the car....I wanted it functional. 
Oh yeah...the rivets are super easy to do. I removed my rear baffle about a month ago. It literally took longer to get the drill and extension cord setup than it did removing all the rivets!
Oh yeah...the rivets are super easy to do. I removed my rear baffle about a month ago. It literally took longer to get the drill and extension cord setup than it did removing all the rivets!
Originally Posted by 16nrollininaws6
Yeah I will definitely be getting one. Along with a lid, filter, FTRA, this I imagine will do some pretty good ****. Thanks for all your input.
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How would you preasurize the air box if you already cut the lower ari box doing the free ram air? I've used duct tape on mine but then when I start the car in the morning it is very hesitant for like 2 seconds before going to normal. I had that for a week and then took the tape off.
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I just got my BGRA today and promptly installed it. The fitment and quality are definitely first class! 
It looks like these pieces came straight from GM!
The hardest part about the install is removing the front baffles. They're glued on there pretty good but a short wide screwdrive made quick work.
I'm going to head out for a little spin in a little while.....on the highway of course!!!
I'll update this when I get back!
It looks like these pieces came straight from GM!The hardest part about the install is removing the front baffles. They're glued on there pretty good but a short wide screwdrive made quick work.
I'm going to head out for a little spin in a little while.....on the highway of course!!!
I'll update this when I get back!
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I still haven't taken my ride out....more on the SOTP feel later.
Three reasons why I chose this mod:
1)The shortest most direct path for air should net the most air moved. In the BGRA's case, the air only has to go 6" or less to the inlet of the airbox. Nothing is more direct than that besides removing the hood!
2)I would guess that on a hot summer Florida day, where the pavement is 120 degrees....that the air would be cooler 2' above the surface than 8" above it (like the FTRA). I've seen guys on here saying their IAT is 40 degrees cooler since adding the BGRA. The air won't heat up until it's inside of the airbox....cooler air = denser air = more power.
3)Nothing like having a 'True' Ram Air hood! The kit actually funnels the air from the corners of the nostrils towards the center. At high speeds this will create a slight 'pressurization'.
Three reasons why I chose this mod:
1)The shortest most direct path for air should net the most air moved. In the BGRA's case, the air only has to go 6" or less to the inlet of the airbox. Nothing is more direct than that besides removing the hood!
2)I would guess that on a hot summer Florida day, where the pavement is 120 degrees....that the air would be cooler 2' above the surface than 8" above it (like the FTRA). I've seen guys on here saying their IAT is 40 degrees cooler since adding the BGRA. The air won't heat up until it's inside of the airbox....cooler air = denser air = more power.
3)Nothing like having a 'True' Ram Air hood! The kit actually funnels the air from the corners of the nostrils towards the center. At high speeds this will create a slight 'pressurization'.
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I'm not saying that. I would go with one of those two if you didn't have a WS6. But....since you do....it's easier and more efficient to use the hood that GM gave you! 
This is just my opinion of course.
This is just my opinion of course.
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Update!
I just took the car out for some 'spirited driving'.
Holy CRAP!!! You get above 100 and the car pulls much harder than before...it was pulling so hard it actually scared me a little because I'm not used to that kind of pull.
I didn't feel much difference under 70.
I think I'm heading to the track this Wednesday.....we'll see what she does this time around. I'll let you all know what I run.
I just took the car out for some 'spirited driving'.
Holy CRAP!!! You get above 100 and the car pulls much harder than before...it was pulling so hard it actually scared me a little because I'm not used to that kind of pull.
I didn't feel much difference under 70.
I think I'm heading to the track this Wednesday.....we'll see what she does this time around. I'll let you all know what I run.
how can i seal up under the air lid? for the free cut out? just get a new piece or what? i think im gonna do this once i get another car to take aroudn day to day, dont wanna get stuck in a down pour
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Do a search on Brian Green Ram Air or BGRA in the general forums. You'll see all of the posts about it. You will see nothing but positive comments about it. Like I said. If you look at the intake setup and the hood...there will be nothing more effective than the BGRA on a WS6.
I was going to build my own functional Ram Air, I researched the materials and measured...etc, etc. But...I could never have built anything that would have matched the quality and fitment of the BGRA kit. It is truly a 'Cold Air' intake.
The SSRA and FTRA are great kits as well. Like I said....if you have a regular T/A or Camaro...I'd definitely go with one of those kits....probably one made out of plastic and not metal. Less heat soak.
Now...if you're thinking of the typical CAI that you see in Honda's and such....most of those are complete garbage as they are made of aluminum...a tube that stretches all the way across the engine bay. Think about it....aluminum is an excellent conductor of heat...and there is air passing through this tube. So even if the intake/filter is in the fender well....you're doing nothing but heating up the air all the way to the intake. hot air = less power.
I was going to build my own functional Ram Air, I researched the materials and measured...etc, etc. But...I could never have built anything that would have matched the quality and fitment of the BGRA kit. It is truly a 'Cold Air' intake.
The SSRA and FTRA are great kits as well. Like I said....if you have a regular T/A or Camaro...I'd definitely go with one of those kits....probably one made out of plastic and not metal. Less heat soak.
Now...if you're thinking of the typical CAI that you see in Honda's and such....most of those are complete garbage as they are made of aluminum...a tube that stretches all the way across the engine bay. Think about it....aluminum is an excellent conductor of heat...and there is air passing through this tube. So even if the intake/filter is in the fender well....you're doing nothing but heating up the air all the way to the intake. hot air = less power.
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
how can i seal up under the air lid? for the free cut out? just get a new piece or what? i think im gonna do this once i get another car to take aroudn day to day, dont wanna get stuck in a down pour
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From: Boca Raton, FL
Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
pieces are in the trash, i might just get some plastic and cut a piece to fit under the air box and seal it nice. or get a new piece
Anyone?
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This looks like a great system, might look into purchasing myself, I am wondering because I know using a grill or factory grill or whatever would reduce airflow, what about using lets say just regular grill mesh, something thats thin and open just to look as if something is there besides a huge hole, would this cause any problems or reduce the ammount of air-flow that comes in?
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Originally Posted by 2000WS6Vert
I'm not saying that. I would go with one of those two if you didn't have a WS6. But....since you do....it's easier and more efficient to use the hood that GM gave you!
This is just my opinion of course.
This is just my opinion of course.
