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Old 09-02-2010, 11:32 PM
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I just recently installed a lg g5x3 cam with patriot springs and got slower... i know my problem is getting out of the hole because with the stock cam i was pulling a 1.7-1.8 60ft now i cant get any better than a 2.1. So would i benefit more from some gears or bigger stall? I have stock 3.23s with a 3200 circle D stall. I also installed an adjustable tq arm at 0 degrees... idk how much that may affect me either. I know the car makes decent power it went from 328rwhp to 362 rwhp. Im on dragradials and its not spinning just seems kinda gutless out of the hole now. Anyways I went from a 8.0-8.1 @ 87-88mph to a 8.3-8.4@ 90mph.. hell I ran a 8.35 when the car was lid only no stall, headers or cam. Im pretty upset with it
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What car?
What engine?
What are the supporting mods?
Who tuned it? Do they have LS1 experience?
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
Who tuned it? Do they have LS1 experience?
^^This^^.... The 3.23's & 3200 stall arent exactly a perfect match for that cam.
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Obviously you are lacking traction.
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Get some DR's and launch it hard.
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I have dragradials, it's a 01 ram air with cam, longtubes, Off road y pipe, ls6 intake, lid, 3200 stall, 3.23 gears, adj tq arm, panhand bar, qa1 shocks. An yes it was tuned by a local speed shop that tunes alot of ls1 cars.. I think it's my stall throwing my times off, it doesn't seem as loose since the cam
swap.. Which I'm thinking is from loss of low end tq
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id say its you tune for sure if ur car is fine. or just get a bigger gears. good luck
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Originally Posted by Slamed01Ramair
I have dragradials, it's a 01 ram air with cam, longtubes, Off road y pipe, ls6 intake, lid, 3200 stall, 3.23 gears, adj tq arm, panhand bar, qa1 shocks. An yes it was tuned by a local speed shop that tunes alot of ls1 cars.. I think it's my stall throwing my times off, it doesn't seem as loose since the cam
swap.. Which I'm thinking is from loss of low end tq
I have a G5x2 and run a PT4000 and 3.73 gears, def need to work on gears/stall with the bigger G5x3.

Although with that said, your MPH seems way low for 362rwhp. Was it possible just a TERRIBLE DA day?

Should be over 100mph easy.
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Originally Posted by Chrome355z
I have a G5x2 and run a PT4000 and 3.73 gears, def need to work on gears/stall with the bigger G5x3.

Although with that said, your MPH seems way low for 362rwhp. Was it possible just a TERRIBLE DA day?

Should be over 100mph easy.
Well it wasn't ideal temps, I'm in Texas it was 90+degrees, idk what the humidty or anything was tho, but idk about trapping 100mph that would be around 6s
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he's clearly running 1/8th mile....his trap is fine, his 60ft sucks, needs stall and/or gears

looks like a poor setup that is overcammed for the rest of the car
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
he's clearly running 1/8th mile....his trap is fine, his 60ft sucks, needs stall and/or gears

looks like a poor setup that is overcammed for the rest of the car
Yea the cam isn't of choice I just got it very cheap and I figured it would work atleast decent.
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well figure you get down to 1.7 60ft, should put you around 7.7 et, but the better stall could also keep you in the power band so maybe some to gain there

but it's all ricer math, best thing is to get the car back to leaving hard and see what that gets you...
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
well figure you get down to 1.7 60ft, should put you around 7.7 et, but the better stall could also keep you in the power band so maybe some to gain there

but it's all ricer math, best thing is to get the car back to leaving hard and see what that gets you...
Yea I guess if I drop the cash for a diff stall I'm going to get atleast a 4000
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with a cam that large that might be wise, talk to a sponsor about the stall and see what they recommend based on your mods
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Surprised no one has said this but why is a cam only G5x3 LS1 making 362? Bolt on LS1s are making that. Your tune is way off. Are your injectors maxed out? Address that then the stall/gears
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bolt on ls1 autos aren't usually that high, I've seen lots of them in the low 300s unlocked

I'm guessing the stall was unlocked on the pull, for which 360rwhp wouldn't be absurd with no mention of ported tb or an underdrive...he is trapping 90+mph with an auto which sounds pretty close to me, I wouldn't expect a ton more power wise from it.
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I ran a 1.76 60' time with bolt on's with a 3000 stall converter,2.73 gears.
After I had my Hotcam [smaller cam then yours ]installed/tuned my 60' went to a 1.89.
Put in 3.42 gears and back to a 1.79.
I am going with a bigger stall to get my car into the powerband quicker.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
bolt on ls1 autos aren't usually that high, I've seen lots of them in the low 300s unlocked

I'm guessing the stall was unlocked on the pull, for which 360rwhp wouldn't be absurd with no mention of ported tb or an underdrive...he is trapping 90+mph with an auto which sounds pretty close to me, I wouldn't expect a ton more power wise from it.
maybe its just my friends, his stalled bolt on car was putting out 360 unlocked
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see if the converter can be rebuilt to stall higher.
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Well it was the stall, I changed to a yank 4000 and ran a 7.8 @ 90mph na then 7.05 @ 97mph on n20... would have been better but the ol nittos wont hold up very good on the bottle.... btw i dont really believe in all these OH MY FRIENDS car did this on the dyno... crap every dyno and condition is going to be slighty different



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