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Old 09-06-2010, 09:42 PM
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I have the MS4 cam and I really hate it. Has no low end power and no tq. 500 horse is just a number man. My car is a blast to drive, drives great but I know I could have done better. Iv seen many cars with less stuff done to there car, smaller cam and they make a lot less power than me, and they run faster than me. As soon as the times right, this big dick wanna be cam is comein out of my car. I make 425/370 with stock heads. Porting a set of 243s would probaly put me around 460 or so..the MS4 is great for 2 things, a drag car that weights 2600lbs and dyno numbers, thats it..

My thoughts..pull that cam out sell it and put a custom cam and good heads and then go beat the hell out of everyone else..
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Not to mention having a cam named like something out of a Harry Potter movie isn't cool...
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Originally Posted by turbo
Not to mention having a cam named like something out of a Harry Potter movie isn't cool...



But seriously talk to Patrick G hes a member on here have him spec you a cam.
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if 500hp was easy and cheap to attain, we'd all be making that.
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All I can say is find a friendly dyno.
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Originally Posted by 00 black ss
why would the cc of the heads affect your injector decesion? cc just affects compression ratio not as much horsepower. id say 42# would be fine for your setup.

exactly, i run 36lbs with stock heads i dont wana run out iof fuel when being tuned and i figure 36s wont be enough, 42 will give me room and prob not even come close to maxing them out
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Originally Posted by black00ssFL
Off topic question, sort of. But, why is the peak rwhp of 500 important and not just a really well performing car?
as it sits is a 430wheel, i want more out of it while attempting to use the same cam.
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Originally Posted by 223HAWK
I have the MS4 cam and I really hate it. Has no low end power and no tq. 500 horse is just a number man. My car is a blast to drive, drives great but I know I could have done better. Iv seen many cars with less stuff done to there car, smaller cam and they make a lot less power than me, and they run faster than me. As soon as the times right, this big dick wanna be cam is comein out of my car. I make 425/370 with stock heads. Porting a set of 243s would probaly put me around 460 or so..the MS4 is great for 2 things, a drag car that weights 2600lbs and dyno numbers, thats it..

My thoughts..pull that cam out sell it and put a custom cam and good heads and then go beat the hell out of everyone else..

i like the ms4, low end is dull but its pretty nasty at top end. i just dont wana spend more noney when i already have a decent cam, iran the came for a year(2500 untuned miles) on the street, and loved it. untuned because i ran out of money at the time to tune it
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Originally Posted by SSmoken
if 500hp was easy and cheap to attain, we'd all be making that.
sure we would pal thats why im attempting to
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I have a ms3 and prc 5.3's from tsp with a built bottom end. good luck!
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Originally Posted by rouchiemanz28
I have a ms3 and prc 5.3's from tsp with a built bottom end. good luck!
whats it making for power? stock cube or bigger? ill assume bigger since its a built bottom end, intake set up? auto or 6spd cam specs are slightly diff but w/e
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prc 215-227,trick flow 215,afr 215-225.mite find a used pair of cnc heads in the parts section for $1400-1600.
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Originally Posted by garygnu
prc 215-227,trick flow 215,afr 215-225.mite find a used pair of cnc heads in the parts section for $1400-1600.
awesome thank you very much, finally some1 actually reading what i was asking for help with i appreciate it




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