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Old 01-31-2012, 10:34 AM
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I just ordered an LS6 cover from GM Parts direct, but I used this part number 12568002 which is listed as 2001+ LS6 vally cover in another thread, what's the difference with this one 12577927? they are both the same price, but the description doesn't say which is which?
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12577927 is the "new" style LS6 valley with the internal pcv filter. I think you might've ordered the older style.
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So, how does 2x steam crossover pipes (12602544) work? Connect one at the front, one at the back, cap off the one at the back, run the one at the front back to the radiator? It strikes me that capping the back at both ends would be simpler, no?

Does capping the back at both ends cause an issue?
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Originally Posted by JekHawkins
So, how does 2x steam crossover pipes (12602544) work? Connect one at the front, one at the back, cap off the one at the back, run the one at the front back to the radiator? It strikes me that capping the back at both ends would be simpler, no?

Does capping the back at both ends cause an issue?
I'm wondering the same thing before I take on the valley cover and intake swap.
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Usually with 2 front style cross over lines, a hose is ran from the back tied in with the front one somewhere. To avoid plugging the rear off.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
Usually with 2 front style cross over lines, a hose is ran from the back tied in with the front one somewhere. To avoid plugging the rear off.
The part that really confuses me is the TSP kit looks like it comes with 1 crossover tube and some rubber hose. Definitely lost on making the LS6 intake work with the LS6 valley. Want to make sure the PCV system and coolant lines are routed corrected. I keep reading the "catch can routing ok" thread and it confuses the **** out of me.

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-86-cool...sx-intake.aspx
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Basically, you will order 2 of the tsp kits, kinda. That kit comes with the front cross over and 2 plugs for the rear...which is acceptable. However, there have been issues reported of #7 and 8 cylinders getting hot because of the lack of rear coolant flow.

The ls1 had all 4 corners of the heads connected, when the ls6 intake became standard, they couldn't use the steam tubes that ran under the intake, because of room. So they just blocked the rear 2 ports off, forcing any coolant to work it's way up thru the head and back to the water pump.

Using 2, ls6 front coolant cross overs, one at the front in the traditional location, and one at the back pointing the outlet toward the firewall, you can easily connect these 2 with a rubber hose without going under the intake.

As far as your catch can routing with your ls6 valley cover, you will go from the nipple on the valley cover to the inlet of the catch can, then from the outlet of the catch can to the intake.

Connect the one fresh air inlet hose from the throttle body to the valve cover and cap every other port off on the valve covers that is related to the ls1 Pcv system.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
Basically, you will order 2 of the tsp kits, kinda. That kit comes with the front cross over and 2 plugs for the rear...which is acceptable. However, there have been issues reported of #7 and 8 cylinders getting hot because of the lack of rear coolant flow.

The ls1 had all 4 corners of the heads connected, when the ls6 intake became standard, they couldn't use the steam tubes that ran under the intake, because of room. So they just blocked the rear 2 ports off, forcing any coolant to work it's way up thru the head and back to the water pump.

Using 2, ls6 front coolant cross overs, one at the front in the traditional location, and one at the back pointing the outlet toward the firewall, you can easily connect these 2 with a rubber hose without going under the intake.

As far as your catch can routing with your ls6 valley cover, you will go from the nipple on the valley cover to the inlet of the catch can, then from the outlet of the catch can to the intake.

Connect the one fresh air inlet hose from the throttle body to the valve cover and cap every other port off on the valve covers that is related to the ls1 Pcv system.
Thank you!!!!

So I can run basic rubber hosing from the front LS6 tube to the rear LS6 tube to ensure coolant flow to all of the engine? And you would not suggest to run them under the intake??

I was not planning on running a catch can at the moment, I was going to see how well the LS6 valley cover performed before throwing another $100ish at the issue.
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If you have room under the intake, get I 4 to 1 ls1 style steam tube setup. Otherwise, you will run the rear fitting thru a rubber line to a t fitting, then connect the front to the t fitting then run it back to the radiator.
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It is possible to keep the LS1 style steam pipe with a LS6 intake. I did it on my old 2000 Trans am. It does require slight modification to the intake but will work. In order to make it work you have to grind down the ribs that are on the bottom side of the intake. I don't have any pics, but it does allow for the use of a factory 4to1 LS1 style steam pipe
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it not the LS6 intake that the problem with LS1 steam tubes.....its LS1 steam tubes with LS6 valley cover
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Originally Posted by sjsingle1
it not the LS6 intake that the problem with LS1 steam tubes.....its LS1 steam tubes with LS6 valley cover
OK, must have mis-read the thread
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i run 2 LS6 steam tubes with my LS6 intake and VC.......easy install
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I have a Gen 3 block with a LS6 valley cover & the curved hose back to the intake....

Do I need to use a PCV valve ???

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is this the part num........then no
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Motor was already together & I didnt remember the part # so I just removed the intake & the cover & yes thats the one I have. Thanx
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Originally Posted by bww3588
If you have room under the intake, get I 4 to 1 ls1 style steam tube setup. Otherwise, you will run the rear fitting thru a rubber line to a t fitting, then connect the front to the t fitting then run it back to the radiator.
Part Make & Number - Dorman 788-031
http://qa.dormanproducts.com/p-46687-788-031.aspx

Local parts stores such as _ _ _ _ zone, _ _ _ _ Value, or Advance _ _ _ _ should carry these for about $3.00 along with the standard 3/8" rubber fuel line (usually like $1.25 per foot or so). Don't forget hose clamps while you're there (like I did).
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So two coolant pipes are needed with a fast for proper cooling of all cylinders? I only ordered one GM coolant pipe kit from Texas speed. Should I order another one?
Old 04-26-2012, 10:18 PM
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you dont HAVE to order another one. many many people just block off the rears and get along just fine. that being said, When I bought my FAST, I went ahead and bought two just to be on the safe side.


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