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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Which did you order? I know to get the 5:1 ratio, but 86mm? Thats for the vette guys with the 85mm MAF. We have a 75 stock. Do we get the 75 or the 73?
I measured my screen and it's 86mm dia. for the MAF end. This size fits a 2000 Z and a 2001 WS6. Are you mixing up the MAF sensor i.d with the MAF ends i.d. ?


It's gonna be a little oversize to be a tight fit in the mouth of the MAF. He made a pattern off of my 2000 Z stock MAF. Look at my pictures in post # 1.

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jg to the rescue!!

Wow, I feel like an idiot now; I completely forgot that! I guess we're all allowed one snafoo.... Myself a few more perhaps

5:1, 86mm it is! Settled!
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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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jg to the rescue!!

Wow, I feel like an idiot now; I completely forgot that! I guess we're all allowed one snafoo.... Myself a few more perhaps

5:1, 86mm it is! Settled!
I've been there. He needs to be a little more explicit of what the measurement is for
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Interesting. I have a truck/corvette maf that's the larger variety that incorporates the IAT into it. It doesn't have the screen, but I plan to go to FI in the near future, so I don't really need it, but for $13, it might be worth it just for scientific purposes.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Had an extra $10 I felt like blowin, so I bought one of these screens. I don't have any issues at all with mine, but I figured it'd be worth a shot on my car. It's gotta be worth something for $10.

We'll see how it works this weekend..
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Old May 23, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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any dyno results yet?
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Sorry gents... I've been slacking. I'm going to place my order tonight.

Agree with HoLLo. 10 bucks? I blow that on the car wash. Why not, ya know?

** Just placed order. We'll see how it goes and will inform.

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Old May 24, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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any dyno results yet?
Are you mixing this thread up with the Granatelli wire thread ?
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Are you mixing this thread up with the Granatelli wire thread ?
we all run mafless tunes here anyway im just interested to know/learn if it does anything.
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According to the vette forum guys with the TSP 102mm MAF's, it really helped their MAF frequency stable out and MUCH easier to tune..... I really doubt you'd lose in the long run, considering everything would be easier for the computer to read.

Even if / when I go speed density, I'll probably run one somewhere in the pipe just due to the fact of the way it completely straightens out the airflow and removes all the turbulence.
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Not sure if anybody's actually mentioned the facts in this thread (stopped reading at the bottom of page 1) but the reason for screens on a MAF is, as stated, to straighten the air going THRU the MAF, so it gets an accurate reading. Whats going on between the MAF and the throttle body doesn't really mean much of anything, but the piping/filter arrangement before the MAF makes a huge difference. Ideally, if there is a bend in the pipe, you want the air to make 1 complete swirl before hitting the MAF. The other thing to think about in the intake tract is pressure pulses from the opening and closing of the intake valves. It's not all about JUST airflow - those pressure pulses sometimes move air back and forth as they exit the throttle body and travel down to your air filter and back, creating skewed MAF readings. Believe it or not, GM probably made a good intake. It's all a system, throwing bigger, 'better' (subjective) parts at a motor isn't always a good thing. All the CAI business usually does nothing more than skew MAF readings, causing bumps in ignition timing due to the ECU thinking there is more mass flow coming into the engine than there actually is. Might be OK on a stock motor where there's plenty of room in the tune, but on a modified car with a tune thats already pretty close to the edge....you probably want the ECU to get as good of readings as possible, instead of bumping timing into the knock threshold. Don't believe me - log the MAF voltage on the dyno between a stock intake/filter setup, and a CAI.
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Does anyone know the size of the screen to order for the truck/corvette maf's that are larger? Typically they are called 85mm maf's, but that's not the ID of the metal housing. I guess I can pull out the caliper tonight and measure.
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Does anyone know the size of the screen to order for the truck/corvette maf's that are larger? Typically they are called 85mm maf's, but that's not the ID of the metal housing. I guess I can pull out the caliper tonight and measure.
I would like to know as well as I run an 85mm MAF on my Z with a MAF-only, open loop tune. Anything I can do to improve the readings....I'm all for it. Besides, I can't imagine it hurts flow much if at all. I'd prioritize running an accurate tune over gaining 3hp any day of the week.
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I have the ls2 maf are truck maf what size would I need?I pulled my screen out a while back an it runs like crap I want to try one.
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Originally Posted by sabersaw30
I have the ls2 maf are truck maf what size would I need?I pulled my screen out a while back an it runs like crap I want to try one.
Anyone?
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I keep meaning to take a measurement when I get home from work each day and keep forgetting... maybe it's the 2 and 4 year old who rush me when I walk through the door... just a guess.

I'll try and remember when I get home.
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Originally Posted by sabersaw30
I have the ls2 maf are truck maf what size would I need?I pulled my screen out a while back an it runs like crap I want to try one.
I guess you're going to have to measure across the mouth of the housing as I show in post 41. You tell him what you want and he cuts it for you.
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I just took a pic of my maf with a caliper and it measures 94.2 mm.

Maybe someone can help us out with what diameter we should order.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kendogg
Not sure if anybody's actually mentioned the facts in this thread (stopped reading at the bottom of page 1) but the reason for screens on a MAF is, as stated, to straighten the air going THRU the MAF, so it gets an accurate reading. Whats going on between the MAF and the throttle body doesn't really mean much of anything, but the piping/filter arrangement before the MAF makes a huge difference. Ideally, if there is a bend in the pipe, you want the air to make 1 complete swirl before hitting the MAF. The other thing to think about in the intake tract is pressure pulses from the opening and closing of the intake valves. It's not all about JUST airflow - those pressure pulses sometimes move air back and forth as they exit the throttle body and travel down to your air filter and back, creating skewed MAF readings. Believe it or not, GM probably made a good intake. It's all a system, throwing bigger, 'better' (subjective) parts at a motor isn't always a good thing. All the CAI business usually does nothing more than skew MAF readings, causing bumps in ignition timing due to the ECU thinking there is more mass flow coming into the engine than there actually is. Might be OK on a stock motor where there's plenty of room in the tune, but on a modified car with a tune thats already pretty close to the edge....you probably want the ECU to get as good of readings as possible, instead of bumping timing into the knock threshold. Don't believe me - log the MAF voltage on the dyno between a stock intake/filter setup, and a CAI.
All that to say and not one single fact to back it up. There is something about MAF screens that bring out the stupidity in so many people.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I just took a pic of my maf with a caliper and it measures 94.2 mm.

Maybe someone can help us out with what diameter we should order.
Thanx for the measurement.
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