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Old 09-05-2011, 03:27 PM
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I am not risking messing up the maf for a few hp when I know that's what makes the car run as good as it does.. I just feel like that maf screen has to restrict airflow alot doesn't it? Isn't it pointlesst to have 90mm intakes and 90mm lids if you have the stock maf?
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I've the mass screen out of my 2500hd (auto) since almost new with no ill effects. The truck evens runs pretty good.
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
I am not risking messing up the maf for a few hp when I know that's what makes the car run as good as it does.. I just feel like that maf screen has to restrict airflow alot doesn't it? Isn't it pointlesst to have 90mm intakes and 90mm lids if you have the stock maf?
If your MAF, including the screen, is actually a restriction the remedy is a larger MAF, including the screen. Its hard to compare throttle body size to MAF size because the MAF has a screen that reduces its effective size, but the throttle body has its blade mechanism that also reduces its effective size.
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Originally Posted by Darkman
If your MAF, including the screen, is actually a restriction the remedy is a larger MAF, including the screen. Its hard to compare throttle body size to MAF size because the MAF has a screen that reduces its effective size, but the throttle body has its blade mechanism that also reduces its effective size.
I agree with darkman about not descreening the stock maf. But the slp 85mm is a great upgrade. Is your stock tb ported? It takes a bunch to run that time with bolt ons, but hey LET THE MODS BEGIN.
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Originally Posted by DaFireMan
I agree with darkman about not descreening the stock maf. But the slp 85mm is a great upgrade. Is your stock tb ported? It takes a bunch to run that time with bolt ons, but hey LET THE MODS BEGIN.
It takes alot to run what times?? Your post confuses me lol. Are you saying it takes alot to run 11's with bolt-ons? My stock tb is not ported.
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
It takes alot to run what times?? Your post confuses me lol. Are you saying it takes alot to run 11's with bolt-ons? My stock tb is not ported.

Yes it takes alot to run 11's. Ive ran a best of 11.76 @ 114 but I have Heads, Cam, Stall, etc etc.
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I would look at other bolt on for .2....before getting a 90/90 set up. For me 20 hp isn't worth the price.
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Originally Posted by Stippy17
Yes it takes alot to run 11's. Ive ran a best of 11.76 @ 114 but I have Heads, Cam, Stall, etc etc.
Your car should be a little faster. No affense. I wasn't asking if it takes alot to run 11's I was asking him if that's what he was saying. I am only 3 tenths off now with simple/cheap bolt-ons. I get a fast 90 intake and fix my intake setup a little bit im sure I will be in 12.1 territory. Put some slicks on my car And get my 60ft down a tenth and im in the 11's. What is your 60 ft? And what d/a are you running in? What size stall? You should be running a little faster with heads and cam. And your trap is a little low for heads cam. I trapped 110 with a few bolt-ons....
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
Your car should be a little faster. No affense. I am only 3 tenths off now with simple/cheap bolt-ons. I get a fast 90 intake and fix my intake setup a little bit im sure I will be in 12.1 territory. Put some slicks on my car And get my 60ft down a tenth and im in the 11's. What is your 60 ft? And what d/a are you running in? What size stall? You should be running a little faster with heads and cam. And your trap is a little low for heads cam. I trapped 110 with a few bolt-ons....
No offense taken. I wish I could run in the DA your running in. Where I live I see DA around 3000. Im running a 224/230 cam which is not very big, and Patriot Stage II 5.3 Heads. Stall is 3600 w/ 3.42s gears. My 60ft is usually high 1.6x/low 1.7x. There is alot left in my 60ft & 1/4 mile with a 3.73 gear swap, but the car is primarily my daily driver. My car put down 398whp, so 11.76 @ 114.8 is about where I should be at give or take. This year Ive done more suspension and Im adding an underdrive pulley. I should pull off an 11.6x in my horrible DA conditions.

If I ran in 1800 DA my car would run 11.5x @ 11x even with 3.42s as it sits.
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Originally Posted by Stippy17
No offense taken. I wish I could run in the DA your running in. Where I live I see DA around 3000. Im running a 224/230 cam which is not very big, and Patriot Stage II 5.3 Heads. Stall is 3600 w/ 3.42s gears. My 60ft is usually high 1.6x/low 1.7x. There is alot left in my 60ft & 1/4 mile with a 3.73 gear swap, but the car is primarily my daily driver. My car put down 398whp, so 11.76 @ 114.8 is about where I should be at give or take. This year Ive done more suspension and Im adding an underdrive pulley. I should pull off an 11.6x in my horrible DA conditions.

If I ran in 1800 DA my car would run 11.5x @ 11x even with 3.42s as it sits.
Don't think my d/a is good here lol. Reg is 3000-4000 d/a. I only go for my best times in the really cool parts of the year is why I have that d/a. Considering your d/a though the times are really pretty good. I have to wait tell the end of the season like october just to have a DECENT 1800ft d/a . I ran a 12.8 not to long ago in like 3800ft d/a. It was horrible hot. Like 100 degrees and so on and I ran a 12.8@106 with a 1.9 60ft. Track prep sucked cuz they were doing drag radial only times....
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I didn't get to make it out to the track at the end of the season last year, so I'm hoping I can make up for that this year and get a new personal best time. Should be doable with the new mods.
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The fast 90/90 isn't going to be a huge improvement now, but with a cam or heads (or both) it will gain more.

I went from a ls1 intake to a mild ported 90. I estimate based on track times to have gained right at 20hp with a cam designed to handicap poor intake flow.

On your car, hoping for more than 10-15hp is a stretch.
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I picked up 27 rwhp going from a Stock TB/LS6 intake to a 90/90 Fast intake non ported. The more you have done to the motor the more power you pickup.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
The fast 90/90 isn't going to be a huge improvement now, but with a cam or heads (or both) it will gain more.

I went from a ls1 intake to a mild ported 90. I estimate based on track times to have gained right at 20hp with a cam designed to handicap poor intake flow.

On your car, hoping for more than 10-15hp is a stretch.
I'd be happy with 15 hp
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
I'd be happy with 15 hp

But you could get that by upgrading your cai and headers...


[edit] unless its more about the underhood bling lol [/edit]
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Originally Posted by Jay-P
But you could get that by upgrading your cai and headers...


[edit] unless its more about the underhood bling lol [/edit]
Yes your right. I do love the look of the fast intakes . Actually though upgrading my headers and cai would cost more. I will be getting the fast 90 and tb for $900 and selling my ls6 $300 and my stock tb $50. So I'm really only spending $550 on it. Headers with y-pipe and a cai would cost me $650 easy.
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If I was you Id start with a UD Pulley and gain 6-9whp for $300. I just ordered one up for my car last Saturday.
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I picked up 14rwh/17rwt with a Fast 92/92. Bolt-ons and a 226/230 cam before the swap made 400 at the rear.
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Originally Posted by *02WS6TURK*
I picked up 14rwh/17rwt with a Fast 92/92. Bolt-ons and a 226/230 cam before the swap made 400 at the rear.
Thats not as good as I would have thought on a cammed car..
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For a somewhat small cam and stock untouched 241 heads, it's good. It's more then what Tony Mamo and Ron at Vengence guessed I would gain.


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