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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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SLP=Powerbond=about as heavy as a stocker, and they go for about $200 or so.
ASP=aluminum center so its one of the lightest, but I have seen some issues/complaints about them coming apart in the past
Summit=Cheapest and people started complaining about them as soon as they are released. I hope they stopped selling them
BBK=Don't know nothing about them.
ATI=hands down the best made, and most expensive price to match.

I'm running the 25% Powerbond. I think I found the best price at Maryland Speed under the SLP name.
The Summit is a rebranded BBK.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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there was a thread on the Corvette Forum last year about this. There was a race team that was having a problem breaking timing chains and through research they found the problem directly coming from the balancer. In the end it was concluded that if you track the car where you hold rpm's between 3000 and up for extended time the only two balancers that did not cause chain breakage was the stock and the ATI balancer.

You can find the ATI on ebay for a little over $200 brand new. It just takes patience.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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I see katech is currently doing more testing with ATI on some dampers.... be interesting to see what comes of that.

And also, quick question for anyone here, does anyone know off hand for certain if the included bolt that comes with the SLP balancer is reusable or not???
I cannot remember, been running mine for a couple years now, but getting ready to do another cam swap and want to know if I need to spend another $25 just for an arp, or if my current one is reusable??
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Only ARPs are reusable. So the answer would be probably not, bc it is likely a GM bolt.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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I have a March 25% UD. It is a fluiddamper type. It came with an undersized alt pulley to compensate for the UD. I don't use the alt pulley, though, because the 13.5 v the alt produces is more than enough.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Only ARPs are reusable. So the answer would be probably not, bc it is likely a GM bolt.
yeah,that is pretty much the conclusion I am coming to... might just pick up an arp. If I were really planning ahead for several more caswapsm, I probablshouldy just look into a 2pc timing cover, but to jump from a $26 bolt and front gasket, to a 170 coveisr a big step!



I also find it pretty interesting that out of all the replies to a thread like this and not yet one complaint of a thrown belt, like some manufacturers claim is an issue... and I'm assuming that quite a few of you wind your motors up pretty high too? How many here are still running stock belt tensioner and how many a manual?
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Only ARPs are reusable.
Not true. SDPC makes there own bolt that is also reusable and half the price of the ARP.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ShredSled
I also find it pretty interesting that out of all the replies to a thread like this and not yet one complaint of a thrown belt, like some manufacturers claim is an issue... and I'm assuming that quite a few of you wind your motors up pretty high too? How many here are still running stock belt tensioner and how many a manual?
I did my homework. I swapped my old stock belt tensioner to Katech manual. No slack on the belt and with powerbond pulley it has a high wall belt guide vs other pullies out there.

I'm manual and I spin my motor up to 6.5K rpms. No point of spinning beyond that with my cam and my stock rod bolts.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Im running the stock tensioner still with my ASP UD Pulley w/ no problems of throwing belts. I also spin my motor to 6500 with my cam and stock rod bolts.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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I run a power bond but wish i had an ATI
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
I run a power bond but wish i had an ATI
yep, so do I... unfortunately my wallet tells me otherwise at this point.
I see you're even running the caddy race lifters, you must spin that thing up pretty high on the regular?

btw, I'm jealous you live in NZ!
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by c0ncEpT
Not true. SDPC makes there own bolt that is also reusable and half the price of the ARP.
Powerbond/SLP don't come with a SDPC bolt. They come with GM bolts.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Powerbond/SLP don't come with a SDPC bolt. They come with GM bolts.
It's not that hard to buy an ARP bolt!

ShredSled: It's my w-end car that i also road race on occasion, so just added insurance with lifters 'ones i could afford' still change at 6500.

As for NZ...wish i was in the USA lol.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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I really don't know what you are getting at there fella. But try to keep up.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
It's not that hard to buy an ARP bolt!

ShredSled: It's my w-end car that i also road race on occasion, so just added insurance with lifters 'ones i could afford' still change at 6500.

As for NZ...wish i was in the USA lol.
haha, grass is always greener...


you probably just want access to the more abundant parts resources, huh?
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 01:38 AM
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Parts, prices, cars, the girls, lol, the stuff thats available to you guys, be it pulleys re this thread to crate engines
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 03:39 AM
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I have a March pulley for years now; never had a problem. I can't remember what I paid, or what percentage its supposed to be. No charging, cooling, or power steering difference.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Powerbond/SLP don't come with a SDPC bolt. They come with GM bolts.
Not trying to start **** but this is right off of the SDPC site.

This kit includes a new shorter main drive belt, shorter a/c belt, and the SDPC High Performance 8740 chrome moly reusable balancer bolt.

http://sdparts.com/details/powerbond.../kpbu1480-ss25
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About the ARP bolt...........

New ARP harmonic balancer bolt for LS1, LS2, and LS6 engines. This is a 12 point head, chromemoly bolt with a black oxide finish. Yield strength is rated at 200,000 psi.

Could they be rebadging an ARP? Sure looks like one to me Wasn't aware SDPC was in the bolt making business.

From WS6 store:

98-02 LS1 SLP Harmonic Balancer/Underdrive Pulley

SLP's new 25% underdrive balancer for LS1 F-Bodies incorporates a number of high-quality features you won't find on any other aftermarket unit. Chief among them are a pair of extra-tall belt-retention walls that eliminate the belt-slippage issues endemic to other LS1 balancers (see photo). Other unique design strengths include 100% steel construction (other brands use steel and aluminum), integral timing marks, and built-in puller-mounting threads. Includes a new balancer bolt and detailed installation instructions.

They are referring to a GM bolt here. I have seen the image relating and its a genuine GM bolt.

So, only the ARP is re-usable.
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
About the ARP bolt...........

New ARP harmonic balancer bolt for LS1, LS2, and LS6 engines. This is a 12 point head, chromemoly bolt with a black oxide finish. Yield strength is rated at 200,000 psi.

Could they be rebadging an ARP? Sure looks like one to me Wasn't aware SDPC was in the bolt making business.
Just to clarify for everyone interested. ARP DOES NOT allow any bolts to leave their facility without being stamped ARP. Even when it is a re-box such as with Eagle rod bolts and others.

Also, real quick. I know for a fact ATI is the best you can get. But budget minded me wants to know a real world review on the March 4505 kit (steel fluid dampened) vs BBK 1592 kit. Going on a currently stock LS1 Camaro. Thanks.
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