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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Hey All!

I've done a few searches but haven't come up with much.

Is there an option for lightweight/mini starter for the LS1 in a daily driver?

Looking for some reliable weight loss...

Thanks in advance!
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No lightweight starter options huh?
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powermaster pn 9201 is for LS applications. they don't look that 'mini', but they weigh approx. 8.5 lbs per powermaster's website. here's some more info on mini starters in an LSx application.

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hookemdevils22
powermaster pn 9201 is for LS applications. they don't look that 'mini', but they weigh approx. 8.5 lbs per powermaster's website. here's some more info on mini starters in an LSx application.
the powermaster 9509 is a better choice for a mini...
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the links! Maybe I overlooked it, but I haven't really seen these mentioned in the 'weight saving' threads.

Does anyone know how much weight you'd save by switching to one of these? Or are they the same weight and mainly just used for clearance issues?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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have a MSD red mini...............works great
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Do the mini ones make that really cool sound on start up? I've heard a few sup'd up cars start at the track before and the starters make a sound that very noticeably different than most cars.

I can't describe it but does anyone know what I mean?
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah I know what you mean. I had a mini-starter on my old 66 fuel injected truck. Had a higher whine than most starters and got it spinning a bit quicker.
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Originally Posted by kyoytey1693
Do the mini ones make that really cool sound on start up? I've heard a few sup'd up cars start at the track before and the starters make a sound that very noticeably different than most cars.

I can't describe it but does anyone know what I mean?
Are you talking about the sound from a gear reduction starter vs a direct drive starter?
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Probably so, are they used for high compression engines? I never have known exactly what I was hearing but I know I have heard some that sound considerably different and much cooler than normal.
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The stock starter is a PMGR (permanent magnet gear reduction) unit and weighs the same 8.5lbs. I really don't think you would get any better than that.

A typical swap for older GM cars and trucks is to install a late 90's PMGR starter from a 5.7L (ACDelco PN 336-1910A). I swapped my 20lb original starter for the PMGR on my 80 Corvette. It's smaller, lighter and spins the engine over with ease.

Remember, in the late 90's GM was in a desperate situation with trying to meet federal emissions, so they were trying to reduce weight.
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Originally Posted by Rikoshay
The stock starter is a PMGR (permanent magnet gear reduction) unit and weighs the same 8.5lbs. I really don't think you would get any better than that.

A typical swap for older GM cars and trucks is to install a late 90's PMGR starter from a 5.7L (ACDelco PN 336-1910A). I swapped my 20lb original starter for the PMGR on my 80 Corvette. It's smaller, lighter and spins the engine over with ease.

Remember, in the late 90's GM was in a desperate situation with trying to meet federal emissions, so they were trying to reduce weight.
I was gonna say, they are already damn light now. Maybe get some more torque out of an aftermarket, IDK. Weighing less? Seems like a pretty hard feat to conquer.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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i havent heard of too many DD putting in a lightweight starter. I would take the stocker over most aftermarket ones due to reliability. mines got over 100k miles on it and still cranks without a hitch with the added nearly 200hp over stock power.
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Originally Posted by Rikoshay
The stock starter is a PMGR (permanent magnet gear reduction) unit and weighs the same 8.5lbs. I really don't think you would get any better than that.

A typical swap for older GM cars and trucks is to install a late 90's PMGR starter from a 5.7L (ACDelco PN 336-1910A). I swapped my 20lb original starter for the PMGR on my 80 Corvette. It's smaller, lighter and spins the engine over with ease.

Remember, in the late 90's GM was in a desperate situation with trying to meet federal emissions, so they were trying to reduce weight.
Great info, that's EXACTLY what I was looking for... thanks!
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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The stocker is already pretty light at around 11lbs. Also no headaches like most aftermarket starters. They are also cheap.

You would be better served by running a lightweight battery.....
http://www.powersports.braillebatter...atteries/b129/
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