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Old 10-17-2011, 10:20 PM
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I have a 00 SS and can only afford either the headers or the intake right now, so which one will benifit me more? Car has Lid, MAF, ported throttle body and cat back right now.
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I would say Headers are gonna give you the best banf for your buck...
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You will only get the full benefit of the ls6 if you have headers but headers alone will net the best increase if you have to do one or the other. Honestly, the intake would be cheaper and much easier to do if that is a factor. I did headers first but also had to do motor mounts/trans/torque arm bushings... o2 extensions and egr removal...
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ofcourse headers. ls6 intake on a basically stock car will almost gain nothing, let alone the better sound go with headers.
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Headers for sure
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Most beneficial first mod are long tube headers. That's 5 or 6 times said now.
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^^ Just Pull the trigger on the Headers (Get the coated ones if you can) and don't think twice!!!
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Headers!
My old LS1 made 414rwhp with a stock LS1 intake and TB through an automatic.
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i did both and its way to go!
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The stock LS1 intake is perfectly fine until you start modding the car heavier (cam, heads, etc., etc.), then it would benefit you to switch over. You might see a tiny gain if you do it now, but nothing like what you would see if you got LT's.
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Do the headers. Throw some poly MM's on while your there.
Headers are awesome!
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Originally Posted by mthegodfather
I would say Headers are gonna give you the best banf for your buck...
Everyone is saying headers & it was one of my first mods but I honestly didnt notice much difference like I did after I got an LS6 intake. The intake really woke the car up, def. felt a difference but maybe because I already had LTs. I had $600 into my LTs & ORY but only $300 into the used intake. If I were to do it all over again I would get the intake first, then LTs would follow shortly after.
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Originally Posted by LS1WS6dreamer
Do the headers. Throw some poly MM's on while your there.
Headers are awesome!
Yea def. do the poly MMs while you have the headers off unlike me. I experienced the banging ORY after the LTs & did them the hard way.
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Looks like headers it is then, thanks for all the reply's
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Originally Posted by TransAmWS.6
The stock LS1 intake is perfectly fine until you start modding the car heavier (cam, heads, etc., etc.), then it would benefit you to switch over. You might see a tiny gain if you do it now, but nothing like what you would see if you got LT's.
Really? I thought there was a pretty big difference even on a stock car. I havent done the swap yet though. I am just going to wait until next season.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
Really? I thought there was a pretty big difference even on a stock car. I havent done the swap yet though. I am just going to wait until next season.
On a stock motor your gain maybe 5 hp with LS6 intake.
On a heavy modded motor 8-12hp with a ported LS6 intake.

The LT headers 20-25hp
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Headers and a tune..................
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Originally Posted by Joe69z28
On a stock motor your gain maybe 5 hp with LS6 intake.
On a heavy modded motor 8-12hp with a ported LS6 intake.

The LT headers 20-25hp
Mild heads & cam...24rwhp/14rwtq

http://ls1howto.com/howto/geniii/int...ph-1-15-01.jpg
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Originally Posted by Joe69z28
On a stock motor your gain maybe 5 hp with LS6 intake.
On a heavy modded motor 8-12hp with a ported LS6 intake.

The LT headers 20-25hp
Where are you getting your numbers ? My old 98 gained 16horse and 11Tq with an ls6 intake swap before a tune with just headers and lid only...



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