cwdub4

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I want to get some headers but I want the car to be legal and with cats, which headers do you suggest? not looking for anything crazy, I just want to open her up a lil bit. thanx guys

Blk98Vert

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Go with 00 and up manifolds. Shorties are a waste unless they cost next to nothing. Anything else as in mids and longtubes will make the car illegal

kosh2k

I didn't know the 00 and up manifolds were different? DO they flow better?

bww3588

iTrader: (49)

A little. Almost as good as shorty's. However, short tubes are a waste, and honestly, so are newer manifoldp. You won't see any gains worth the time you spend.

dodson55

iTrader: (18)

my opinion move to a state that will let you mod your car

V68Sweep

Yea, your only option is to go with shorty headers. Unless you can find them used for super cheap, the amount of $$ you will spend on them won't be worth the gains.

Nowhereman

Yup, CA laws totally suck the hatchi....
You change the exhaust system, you are toast.
The best thing you can do is make friends with some guys who do smog stuff and send em a bottle or 6 pack when it gets close to smog time.

94'BLKBRD

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Get a lid, cutout/e-cutout and a nice catback. Getting shorties is your only option of staying legal and not having to pay to pass smog. Not worth the money, at all.

99Bluz28

iTrader: (35)

On the 99 the double walled pipe on the passenger side between the cat and the manifold that's your biggest/worst restriction on the stock exhaust. Replace that with some single wall SS tubing, and a better merger on the Y-pipe would help some to. I'd replace the ls1 intake with a SLP LS6 w/egr , port and/or mill the stock heads or if you can afford it get some AFR 205's or 210's, I also get a small cam with at least -4* valve overlap. A good example is a 224/224 114lsa.

99Bluz28

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Even shorty headers are a issue unless they're CARB certified.

V68Sweep

Yea I know. I almost bought some shorty's from a guy on here that had a CARB EO#, but I don't remember who the manufacturer was. My statement was assuming that he'd buy CARB certified shortys.

99Bluz28

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Yeah, California SUCKS, but that's only because of the ***** we have running the state.

cwdub4

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Thanx guys for all the advise! ill jus probably go with the 00 and up mani.

joecar

The only CARB EO'd shorties I see are JBA (in steel or stainless, uncoated or coated)... and they cost arm/leg.

99Bluz28

iTrader: (35)

I believe that the Pacesetters shorty headers also CARB approved

V68Sweep

That's what I was thinking of! JBA.

01_SuperSlow

iTrader: (7)

What do you do with the EGR pipe if you go with an 01-02 exhaust manifold?

99Bluz28

iTrader: (35)

FYI, If your car came with EGR, you wont pass the visual inspection without it.

hotjohnnyls1

Or find some cheap ones used shorties I got a pair of carb legal ones for my old setup for 50$ lol