Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is it safe?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-2011, 09:33 PM
  #1  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr.z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Is it safe?

To run the SLP 160 thermostat? My mechanic says no...
but what do you think? any of you have this on your rides? If so... Input please.
I searched on here, nothing came up.
Old 12-03-2011, 09:52 PM
  #2  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
973800CamaroRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Thurmont MD
Posts: 358
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts

Default

Is he saying the slp version is unsafe or that a 160 degree thermostat is unsafe ? If he is saying a 160 stat is unsafe find a new mechanic !
Old 12-03-2011, 09:58 PM
  #3  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr.z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

lol.
He says running it at 160 is unsafe.
Old 12-03-2011, 10:04 PM
  #4  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
j99fbody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Villa Rica, GA
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i have been running a 160 stat in my car for years, no problems. Mechanic doesn't know what hes talking about.
Old 12-03-2011, 10:11 PM
  #5  
10 Second Club
 
VandykeT/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hurley, VA
Posts: 2,317
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

I've got em in both of my cars and no problems.
Old 12-03-2011, 10:51 PM
  #6  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
ULTIMATEORANGESS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: eatontown,nj
Posts: 10,976
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 15 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by VandykeT/A
I've got em in both of my cars and no problems.
same here.
Old 12-03-2011, 11:04 PM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr.z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Ok fellas, SLP Thermostat it is.
Thank you.
Old 12-03-2011, 11:11 PM
  #8  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (4)
 
kSStamp09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tyler, TX
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i would think the GM engineers choose the temperature they did for a reason..
Old 12-04-2011, 12:09 AM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Blk98Vert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Is this the same mechanic that told you to run 20W 50 because you had over 100 K.?
Old 12-04-2011, 12:21 AM
  #10  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (19)
 
Ruthless909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: +Evil Empire+(951)
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kSStamp09
i would think the GM engineers choose the temperature they did for a reason..
^^^ What he said.
Old 12-04-2011, 12:58 AM
  #11  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
SweetS10V8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,580
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by kSStamp09
i would think the GM engineers choose the temperature they did for a reason..
x3

Why do you want to run a 160 stat?????
Old 12-04-2011, 01:06 AM
  #12  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr.z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

@ BLKvert: yea he is. and???

@ Sweets10v8; well because it makes the engine run cooler, from what I read on slpshop. figured it would be better. just wanted to see some input on this item thats all.

Last edited by Mr.z/28; 12-04-2011 at 01:12 AM.
Old 12-04-2011, 01:39 AM
  #13  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Starz T/A 17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,855
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by kSStamp09
i would think the GM engineers choose the temperature they did for a reason..
^THIS!!!

But honestly even if you put a 160 stat in your car it wont do much without a tune to change the fan settings. Unless you have a VALID reason to run a lower degree T stat in your car due to heavy mods I dont see a reason to do so. GM choose the factory T stat for a reason so I wouldn't mess with something like that unless you have a reason to
Old 12-04-2011, 02:02 AM
  #14  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Anthony Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: So. CAli
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Mr.z/28
@ BLKvert: yea he is. and???

@ Sweets10v8; well because it makes the engine run cooler, from what I read on slpshop. figured it would be better. just wanted to see some input on this item thats all.
20/50 in a street LS=bad idea. LSx engines(as in most late engines) don't respond to thicker oil in the same manner as old school 350's did, the bearing clearances are much tighter in the LSx. LSx engines are more sensitive to oil pressure, thinner oil builds pressure quicker and flows between tight clearances, remember old school 350's could run good off as little as 7 psi oil pressure, with large bearing clearances you need heavy oil.
The GM higher thermostat temp is more conducive for emissions compliance and water condensation burn off, ran a 160 in my LS1 but noticed alot more condensation in my oil cap even after long drives the water never seemed to burn off. The LS6 has a 180 with no issues.
If your running a stock tune the 160/180 degree will make no diff. in your performance.

Last edited by Anthony Williams; 12-05-2011 at 01:50 AM.
Old 12-04-2011, 03:54 AM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr.z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I never put in 20/50. I was asking for advice whether to do so or not.

ok thanks. Ill be buying a normal stat then. Thank you sir.
Old 12-04-2011, 06:55 AM
  #16  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (21)
 
blk/slvr02ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Port Saint Lucie,Florida
Posts: 2,767
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Your fine w/ a 160 T-Stat but do have the fan setting changed !
Old 12-04-2011, 07:02 AM
  #17  
Captain Double Post
iTrader: (2)
 
BOBS99SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Elyria Ohio
Posts: 1,622
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

i agree with starz ta
Old 12-04-2011, 07:16 AM
  #18  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (4)
 
Deviant LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Why do you need to run a 160 Tstat? Don't pay attention to your dummy coolant gauge. My Trans Am always sat at 210 once the car was warmed up. If you actually log the car it was always between 185-189 cruising and stopped. The car needs to warm up quickly to get into closed loop fueling and to burn off contaminants and moisture from the oil. Running the car cooler for longer is just extra wear and tear on parts. These motors were engineered to run between 190-200.

Are you going to be okay running 160* Tstat, probably. Do you really need one, no.
Old 12-04-2011, 05:43 PM
  #19  
Staging Lane
 
BlumaroZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Metro Deroit
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

run the stock t-stat, the car is designed to run at around 200 degrees becuse it is better for emissions wich is important in california, but more importantly fuel economy. i put one in my 98 z28 and lost mpg's, not to mention you will freeze your azz off the first time you turn your heat on becuse the coolant isnt hot enough to really heat the car. i really should have thought that one through a little more, we get some crazy cold nights here (detroit) in the fall sometimes.
Old 12-05-2011, 02:31 AM
  #20  
That's MISTER MODERATOR
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,591
Received 49 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

Hotter running engines emit less pollutants.

Cooler running engines will make a bit more power and be more responsive.

The temp gauge will somewhat accurately show the engine's running temperature. It does sweep from low to high. The myth that it only shows low OR high is just that-a myth.

Running a lower than stock thermostat is pointless without tuning the fans to come on at the same temperature.

Running a 160 thermostat will still allow you to have heat inside.

Running a 160 stat and fan start temp will probably NOT keep your engine at 160 degrees due to the real limiting factor in these cars-the radiator. The stock radiator is barely capable of keeping these engines below 200 degrees. The slightly higher capacity LT1 radiator will help a bit but stepping up to the big BeCool radiator will really keep the temps down.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 PM.