how bad of an idea is this? or genius?
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Staging Lane
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From: Lake Michigan
how bad of an idea is this? or genius? Putting the camaro away so i want to tweak the intake system. I have the slp lid, but i think the ram air is sub par. Im thinking about adding my own system to the slp lid. Hear me out here.... redneck idea from a city slicker. I want to remove my intake hose and replace it with an 'x' tube coupling. From the other two sides of the x i want to run coupler tubes down to the bottom of the car. There i will latch and attach to the pipes, two intake valence. Im thinking 1 inch height by at least 6 inch width. Brainstorming on the filter system for this. Will this throw my maf out of whack? Would it harm my engine? I dont want to do anything to wear or tear on the car. If thats too much air, would a y pipe with only an extra k and n filter be okay? If this is feasible ill do a full write up
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Staging Lane
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Lake Michigan
May be the laughing stock of ls1tech soon! What else could i do to improve the intake? Its an 02 already have ls6. Is getting a new maf amd tb worth it? The gains seem minimal...
Not going to work the way you want it to. With (3) different sources of air all merging together there will be pressure/velocity drop across the board, bad idea. If you want to improve your ram air system, get the CHRS1313 ram air kit, best on the market and proven gains at the track.
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You can only cram so much air in there, the restriction will be somewhere else down the line.
For one, all this air has to go through the throttle body and then intake manifold. So regardless of how much air you suck in from 3 pipes, you still have to cram it down the same path as before. So it won't make much of a difference if you bring in all this extra air when it all gets bottlenecked by the same restriction. Heck, you can bring in 17 different intake tubes from all over the car, it still all has to go through the throttle body...which if you don't increase well you haven't done squat.
Also, all this air has to go through the same engine and exhaust. So if you don't open up those, you won't make a difference by adding all this extra air if the engine cannot use it. Free up other points of induction (tb, intake manifold, heads, cam) and other points of exhaustion (headers) before all this extra air coming in will actually make a difference.
So until you can make USE of all this extra air that you plan on bringing in, any more than what you have now is useless. A single 104 lid flows more than enough air for the 78mm throttle body and LS6 manifold, so anymore air coming in will be a waste and not be able to be used. Also, the engine already flows more air than the stock manifolds can expel, so until you free up that restriction any extra air that you bring in is useless.
For one, all this air has to go through the throttle body and then intake manifold. So regardless of how much air you suck in from 3 pipes, you still have to cram it down the same path as before. So it won't make much of a difference if you bring in all this extra air when it all gets bottlenecked by the same restriction. Heck, you can bring in 17 different intake tubes from all over the car, it still all has to go through the throttle body...which if you don't increase well you haven't done squat.
Also, all this air has to go through the same engine and exhaust. So if you don't open up those, you won't make a difference by adding all this extra air if the engine cannot use it. Free up other points of induction (tb, intake manifold, heads, cam) and other points of exhaustion (headers) before all this extra air coming in will actually make a difference.
So until you can make USE of all this extra air that you plan on bringing in, any more than what you have now is useless. A single 104 lid flows more than enough air for the 78mm throttle body and LS6 manifold, so anymore air coming in will be a waste and not be able to be used. Also, the engine already flows more air than the stock manifolds can expel, so until you free up that restriction any extra air that you bring in is useless.
Godspeed Ls1 Ls2 Ls6 Performance 102mm Cnc Intake Throttle Body
Is that tb any good? Highest mm i could find
Is that tb any good? Highest mm i could find
You're going to put a 102mm throttle body on a 78mm intake manifold opening? What's the point in that? Where's the gain to be had if you still have to cram air in a smaller opening.
If you're really obsessed with air in, then get a 104mm lid, 102mm throttle body with a 102mm fast intake. That matches, not a big intake tube with small throttle body/manifold. Not big intake tube with bit throttle body with small manifold.
The problem here is you're going about modding your car at the wrong pace. Concentrate on areas that are holding back your car the most, then finish it all off with some small mods like 102 tb and that. Or do it all at once, but throwing random big parts in an otherwise stock setup is not going to net you anything.
So unless you go with a bigger intake manifold, stick with the stock throttle body and concentrate on other areas, like headers maybe, or a cam.
LT1 guys (that use traditional "CAI" that you're thinking of with it off to the side in the fenderwell) change to lid setups, because its better.
Search for the chris1313 ram air kit as suggested, and you can cut open the bottom of the airbox for more air.
The lid setup is actually pretty damn good on these cars, short and straight intake path, also remember that these cars are more "bottom feeders" with how they breath, not as much through the front opening under the lid.
IMO, any aftermarket lid is fine, then remove the baffles to a straight shot through the MAF (stock is plenty) port the stock TB, and keep your LS6 intake and you're already ahead of the game.
I wouldn't spend big money on a 100mm+ setup yet, maybe after you do heads/cam.
Slow down. Do a search for RAM air in this section. Read all that you can & then decide what is best for you. Pay close attention to threads that contain measured information. For example: when the poster includes information such as track results, dyno results, MAF &/or MAP results.
But like someone else said there is only so much air a stock engine can take it. You could take the whole intake off and its still only going to take as much as the car will process. Only way to force air into an engine is with forced induction and if you force too much your going to break something.