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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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A while back I bought a set of Stage 8 P/N 8900 locking header bolts. I measure 25 mm beneath the head. Are these what people usually run? Just wondering if the length is too much, I have a stock header bolt laying around that I measured to be about 3/4".
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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I'm running the Percy split lock bolts and so far so good. Bought them from Summit.
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25mm is right for hardware store type bolts, as in, you're in a bind and need to get on the road.

Factory's are 30mm, but the first 5mm if the bolt themselves have no thread. I you buy 30's and they are theaded all the way, you'll bottom out before the bolt flange meets the header flange.

I reused the stockers, but plan on using Pearcy's Split Locks when I upgrade heads here soon. I simply can't justify ARP's price for header bolts.
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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I will admit, the Percy's are a little awkward the first time. But after you get used to them you can turn the little allen head real quick.
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I've had the same Stage 8's on mine for like 8 or 9 years. After a couple of years, I just threw away the locking tabs and clips because they are a PITA and the bolts had never tried to back out anyway.
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CashDudeHomie
I've had the same Stage 8's on mine for like 8 or 9 years. After a couple of years, I just threw away the locking tabs and clips because they are a PITA and the bolts had never tried to back out anyway.

x 2... i didn't end up using the e-clips & tabs,(just the bolts)
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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ARP header studs, FTW!
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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ARP header studs, FTW!
Damm right.....
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I removed the stock ones and put them right back in. Cheap and effective.
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
I removed the stock ones and put them right back in. Cheap and effective.
Yup workin' fine here too!
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
I removed the stock ones and put them right back in. Cheap and effective.
YUP, worked great for me too, and i have removed and reinstalled my headers 3 times. once when new, once for a head swap, and once for motor mounts (god i wish i did this at the same time i did headers....what a bitch)
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
I removed the stock ones and put them right back in. Cheap and effective.
Originally Posted by S10xGN
Yup workin' fine here too!
Originally Posted by trans_am7935
YUP, worked great for me too, and i have removed and reinstalled my headers 3 times. once when new, once for a head swap, and once for motor mounts (god i wish i did this at the same time i did headers....what a bitch)
Stock bolts here too on my ARH headers. Really no need to spend the money for upgrades here until you need to.

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Originally Posted by Mark2002
Stock bolts here too on my ARH headers. Really no need to spend the money for upgrades here until you need to.

Mark.
That's a matter of opinion. It seems silly to me to install a $750++ set of headers and use stock bolts.
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stage 8's here
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Arp 134-1003 x 4 work pretty well too. Cheaper than their header studs but stronger than the stock bolts.

I am sure you could source some arp fasteners in stainless that are not studs as well...
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
That's a matter of opinion. It seems silly to me to install a $750++ set of headers and use stock bolts.
You are correct, it is an opinion. One must certainly remember that the vast majority of posts in an online forum are opinions.

In my opinion, if a bolt breaks its not a safety concern. I can still drive home/to a shop. Therefore it's more of a nuisance issue. In my case I'm more willing to accept the likelihood of a broken bolt than spending the money on upgraded bolts.

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If you break the bolt off inside the head or have tried to take them out, you would prob be less likely to say that.

They are not fun. With a cast iron head, all you would do is just take a torch to it, but these sometimes break off not flush or sticking out, but in the hole. Not easy to get out, esp with locktite on them.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gectek
If you break the bolt off inside the head or have tried to take them out, you would prob be less likely to say that.

They are not fun. With a cast iron head, all you would do is just take a torch to it, but these sometimes break off not flush or sticking out, but in the hole. Not easy to get out, esp with locktite on them.
A valid point, and something to consider for sure.

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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Whatever bolts you use, make sure that they do not bottom out in the bolt holes.
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Right, and when the bolt breaks off flush with the head and you have to pull the head to have the piece removed, costing you a LOT of labor and a head gasket, and possibly a set of stock head bolts, maybe even having to have your head re-milled for flatness.....all because you were too cheap to buy a $50 set of bolts.
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