lid setup vs custom cold air
lid setup vs custom cold air hey guys im trying to find the post of a guy on here that was making custom cold air intakes for our cars but i cannot find it anywhere. it may have been deleted since he wasnt a sponsor im not sure. anyways i just wanted to know if it was ever confirmed to pick up more speed in the 1\4 over a lid setup? i am going to either build one like his or keep my lid and make a chris1313 style ram air. this is a pic of the kit he was selling.also i will be adding a nozzle kit 150 shot into it. right now i am running sd tune still with stock accordian intake tube and maf not hooked up into my lid. i want to change all that as well.
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Imo I would just do a 104mm lid and a CHRS1313 set up. It does look great but I wouldn't want to have to cut the upper part of the radiator support for the pipe to clear. I wouldn't think it would perform any better than a CHRS1313 and if the filter sits low enough to be effective it can't be as safe in the rain.
Imo I would just do a 104mm lid and a CHRS1313 set up. It does look great but I wouldn't want to have to cut the upper part of the radiator support for the pipe to clear. I wouldn't think it would perform any better than a CHRS1313 and if the filter sits low enough to be effective it can't be as safe in the rain.
you know im leaning that way kind of but i have no need for a 104mm lid right now i have stock tb\intake. i will make my own chris1313 version for around $75 max. and i dont drive the car in rain whatsoever. i will have to rig up somekind of piping\coupler to run from my stock tb to my lid to bypass maf as i dont use it since i have a sd tune and i really want to ditch that and accordian type intake since it looks like crap. with the chris1313 are you supposed to seal the hood to the lid also?
If i wasn't so lazy i would've been done this already, this setup with a velocity stack has to be a good deal more than a traiditonal lid and ram air setup, probably lighter aswell.
Edit: And ALOT cheaper.
Edit: And ALOT cheaper.
yes now i remember reading what you just said. if you do both it causes a turbulance affect and you need to do one or the other so thank you for reminding me haha
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so your saying the true cold air is better then lid and ram air? honestly i just really love the way that 4 inch piping looks with that aluminum\sheet metal radiator shroud. both setups are basically doing the exact same thing and drawing air from the same exact spot. i never drive the car in the rain or take it out if it even looks like it would rain, i put 3k miles on the car the entire past season and 800 was driving it home from kentucky. but i wonder how you would get the sheet metal bent nicely like that over the radiator? a siding brake maybe? it would have to be really thin to do that with a siding brake tho
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If you ever saw how the chrs1313 literally "scooped" air you'd be impressed. That's the whole reason it works better the faster you go. If I was home I'd post some pics, but with the lower scoop on, the air has no choice. It HAS to go in the filter / lid.
so your saying the true cold air is better then lid and ram air? honestly i just really love the way that 4 inch piping looks with that aluminum\sheet metal radiator shroud. both setups are basically doing the exact same thing and drawing air from the same exact spot. i never drive the car in the rain or take it out if it even looks like it would rain, i put 3k miles on the car the entire past season and 800 was driving it home from kentucky. but i wonder how you would get the sheet metal bent nicely like that over the radiator? a siding brake maybe? it would have to be really thin to do that with a siding brake tho
You can build that intake (locally around me) for less than $100 with velocity stack included. Go see how much the cris1313 ram air is. I know 90% of the LSx owners on here do **** for the sound/look of things but honestly id do it for functionality/simplicity/price and power over the lid setup/ram air setup.
the only BAD i can say about those ram air setups are that they can bend or crack when you hit a curb or inclined ramp at the right angle... my ssra works wonders, however ive had to repair it numerous times
the custom cold air would work similiar to how the vettes draw in their 'cold air' and just looks so much better. Personally, I wouldnt swap over to the custom cold air setup because it costs so much to fabricate with really minimal benefit (if any) over a proven lid/ram air setup.
The way i see it, its better than the stock lid but will be equal to or less than adequate than a proper ram air setup. It would be worth it for a hi ram air intake IMO
the custom cold air would work similiar to how the vettes draw in their 'cold air' and just looks so much better. Personally, I wouldnt swap over to the custom cold air setup because it costs so much to fabricate with really minimal benefit (if any) over a proven lid/ram air setup.
The way i see it, its better than the stock lid but will be equal to or less than adequate than a proper ram air setup. It would be worth it for a hi ram air intake IMO
Crs1313 setup goes for $150-$170 i think and then a lid is another $100 or so?
OP that's DopeFedZ's setup, try PMing him?
I gave it a try because my buddy also said it should pick up some power. Might not show on a dyno but at speed it should help. Plus I think it looks cool.
You will definitely need to notch the radiator support. I had to trim the top of the radiator. I had to cut the latch brace as well.
I ordered a couple bends, the velocity stack, two couplers, tbolt clamps and MBA radiator shroud. The shroud I tried not having to split it into two pieces but the 4" tubing was just too damn big to work without doing it that way. The small carbon fiber piece I added at the front of the MBA shroud was because the shroud didn't extend past the notch I made.
You will definitely need to notch the radiator support. I had to trim the top of the radiator. I had to cut the latch brace as well.
I ordered a couple bends, the velocity stack, two couplers, tbolt clamps and MBA radiator shroud. The shroud I tried not having to split it into two pieces but the 4" tubing was just too damn big to work without doing it that way. The small carbon fiber piece I added at the front of the MBA shroud was because the shroud didn't extend past the notch I made.
My car has a 4" tubing setup with a cone filter and the filter has a velocity stack built into it on the inside.
I would trade for a ram air/lid setup in a heartbeat. A good ram air seems to work much better.
I would trade for a ram air/lid setup in a heartbeat. A good ram air seems to work much better.
yes thats him, now that you said the name i remember now. and i really like that setup you have except for the split in half rad support. the one he made didnt have the split and just looks a little cleaner. only other difference is he used a gto 4" filter instead of the intake scoop you have. but the 4" piping is very cheap, same with couplers. the only part i would fab myself is the shroud. i csn get something to work thats very inexpensive just need to figure out how to bend it. i could sell my lid i have now to pay for the entire project. and also you can build a chris1313 setup for around $70.
how is your intake routed and where does the filter sit?
yes thats him, now that you said the name i remember now. and i really like that setup you have except for the split in half rad support. the one he made didnt have the split and just looks a little cleaner. only other difference is he used a gto 4" filter instead of the intake scoop you have. but the 4" piping is very cheap, same with couplers. the only part i would fab myself is the shroud. i csn get something to work thats very inexpensive just need to figure out how to bend it. i could sell my lid i have now to pay for the entire project. and also you can build a chris1313 setup for around $70.