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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Am I crazy to want to hack up the GMMG to quiet it down? And by hacking I'm talking about installing some type of bullet in the I-pipe. Or would it be better to just sell the thing and find something more suitable/quieter?

I remember the LT1 days sitting in my car wishing the constant loudmouth drone would go away but it sounded so good otherwise that I didn't care. Then I got a cam, installed headers, removed cats... all the typical stuff and well that was a big mistake. Had to sort through several catbacks before I found one that was quiet enough on the highway which was the SLP 2OTL. Though it looked funny, it sounded great.

So fastforward to a few months ago and I'm back in an Fbody. This 02 WS6 was supposed to be bone stock but oddly enough it had the GMMG catback which at first I thought was awesome given the fact it is one of the most desireable on the market. And though I don't drive it a whole lot, I can't stop having flashbacks of the LM days and how nasty that thing got when I started opening up the exhaust. I really want to quiet it down NOW rather than react to it being too loud later. What's the best option?
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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To answer your first question; yes, you are crazy. GMMG sounds amazing and, in my opinion, is not too loud. Loud is good my friend.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Depends on what is loud for you. I think a cammed lt1/ls1 with gmmg is pretty loud. A stock ls1, not so much.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 12:13 PM
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My loud meter is calibrated like it used to be. 10 years ago I thought it was cool but now I just think it's loud lol. And when the neighborhood dogs bark when I fire it up, that is too loud. This car is otherwise basically stock too.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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This is what I am thinking of doing with mine. Not hacking up the GMMG exhaust like you said but hacking up my Kooks ORY is just as bad but it will kill the rasp.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vids-pics.html
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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I'll be wiling to trade you my SLP Dual/Dual for your GMMG.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Don't hack up either. The Y doesn't change anything just as the above post proves. Just take out the I pipe from the GMMG, buy a pieces of straight, a 90, and a bullet muffler and make a new I-pipe with muffler installed. This is exactly what I'm doing after my H/C Kooks 1-7/8" and ORY are installed. I know it will be way too loud then since it's already borderline for me now just with pacesetters and a TSP catted Y.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LopeyZ
My loud meter is calibrated like it used to be. 10 years ago I thought it was cool but now I just think it's loud lol. And when the neighborhood dogs bark when I fire it up, that is too loud. This car is otherwise basically stock too.
What all of the young'uns on here just do NOT realise is that the sound pressure of these systems will DESTROY your hearing by the time you get to your 50s, as well as giving you PERMANENT tinitus (ringing in the ears), even if you are only driving them for 50 days a year.
It must be that indestructable/immortal attitude of youth which makes them somehow really believe that it "will not happen to ME".
That, or they just do not expect to even make it to 50??

Hearing aids (which will NOT help with the constant, LOUD ringing), are NOT COOL!

Ask me how I know about this.
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No way gmmg on a stock ls1 will destroy your ears lmfao.. My true duals with sweet thunders dumped could be a little louder and wouldn't bother my ears
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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trade you my magnaflow with dual tips and dmh cut out for it.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Damn...I can't wait to hear the thump and roar of my sns cam installed with my duals. It already sounds like sex, but when your 50+ I guess you forget what that's like..
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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GMMG isnt too loud really. Sounds like a great exhaust
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
What all of the young'uns on here just do NOT realise is that the sound pressure of these systems will DESTROY your hearing by the time you get to your 50s, as well as giving you PERMANENT tinitus (ringing in the ears), even if you are only driving them for 50 days a year.
It must be that indestructable/immortal attitude of youth which makes them somehow really believe that it "will not happen to ME".
That, or they just do not expect to even make it to 50??

Hearing aids (which will NOT help with the constant, LOUD ringing), are NOT COOL!

Ask me how I know about this.
Yup, or any thing loud for that matter. I'm only 40 and i have tinnitus from all the loud stuff in my younger days. Loud music, loud impact tools, cars, etc. It does take a toll and it does suck. I can't be in a perfectly quiet room for very long otherwise the ringing drives me nuts. Sorry for going OT
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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I don't think my GMMG is too loud and I run it with a set of Kooks headers and their ORY. But then again, I've been around airplanes my entire life and can't hear anything either. Sometimes I think the only reason my car doesn't seem loud to me is because my hearing is already so bad.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Tinnitus is horrible ... my brother suffers from it. But he still happily cruises his WS6 with a Flowmaster catback that is MUCH louder than my car was stock with GMMG.

I thought my GMMG was perfect with stock manifolds, cats, and converter. Hi-stall converter and it was a little too loud but acceptable. LT's and it was way over the top. I hacked mine up with a catted Y, powerstick in the I, and resonator tips. Finally I ditched all of it for ORY and a Maxflow setup and have never looked back.

Look at the "sticky worthy" thread for a complete discussion of GMMG solutions.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LopeyZ
Am I crazy to want to hack up the GMMG to quiet it down? And by hacking I'm talking about installing some type of bullet in the I-pipe. Or would it be better to just sell the thing and find something more suitable/quieter?

I remember the LT1 days sitting in my car wishing the constant loudmouth drone would go away but it sounded so good otherwise that I didn't care. Then I got a cam, installed headers, removed cats... all the typical stuff and well that was a big mistake. Had to sort through several catbacks before I found one that was quiet enough on the highway which was the SLP 2OTL. Though it looked funny, it sounded great.

So fastforward to a few months ago and I'm back in an Fbody. This 02 WS6 was supposed to be bone stock but oddly enough it had the GMMG catback which at first I thought was awesome given the fact it is one of the most desireable on the market. And though I don't drive it a whole lot, I can't stop having flashbacks of the LM days and how nasty that thing got when I started opening up the exhaust. I really want to quiet it down NOW rather than react to it being too loud later. What's the best option?
So its stock with cats? Just the GMMG? If so just add add Med PowerStick to the I-pipe, or better yet add a 26" CobraPac from chambered exhuast. That should quiet it down a bit.

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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 12:41 AM
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I did not find it too loud at all, but it did have horrible drone at 2k rpms, despite what anyone says. I put a bullet muffler I had laying around and it cut it down just enough, it probably only decreased the overall volume on the outside slightly.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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you arent crazy...i my self would go for quiet over loud. and btw ive seen MANY threads of people adding bullets to GMMG. it cuts the rasp..thats what i read. PLUS bullet in the i pipe is not hacking. i say try it out and see how you like it..if you dont just trade it with someone from the members above...i would trade just because it looks good but am on the other side of earth so...
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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i was serious about trading my magnaflow with dmh for the gmmg
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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This catback isn't too terribly loud currently and managable for now... sounds like a smoother loudmouth if you ask me. But with headers and high flow cats I know it will get nasty. Hell there really isn't a muffler at all so I can see why. By biggest issue right now is the drone and why some done while others don't has never made a lot of sense to me. I must have been spoiled before because I have experience with SLP LM, dual/dual, 2OTL, Corsa, Borla and now GMMG but the 2OTL while odd looking really sounded great... no way would I ever stick it on a TA though.

Not really interested in trades just yet unless you live in Kansas so I can hear what you have.
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