Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Location of WideBand

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 06:24 PM
  #1  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default Location of WideBand

So I plan on putting in a wideband sensor but I need help on sensor location.

Mods:
SLP lid
No cats
Magnaflow muf
One heavy foot

I still have stock headers, y-pipe.

I'd like the best location possible
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 07:07 PM
  #2  
97camaro383's Avatar
12 Second Club
10 Year Member
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
From: Kansas City, MO
Default

I'd like to know the answer to this also, I just ordered my AEM wideband last night.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 07:24 PM
  #3  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

I've been told that it goes after the first o2 and before the last o2.. but I'm still confused on this
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:25 PM
  #4  
bluenightmare's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake, VA
Default

in the 2 setups that I have run I put the sensor just after the first sensor before the cat with the sensor mounted less than 90 degrees to level. Most kits will have instructions on how to mount it. If you run it after the cat the it won't read properly. Also, remember that you are going to be reading one bank, which ever bank that you have it installed on.

Last edited by bluenightmare; Feb 18, 2013 at 08:33 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:26 PM
  #5  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

I don't have cats installed, so should I just pick a spot on the section of pipe that they welded in? And what does the angle mean? I just planned on having a bung welded on. As far as a bank specific since one side as a rule should run as the other side with minor differences. I'm running near stock and my only future mods are cam and headers.

The gauge I got is a used one. AEM brand
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:11 AM
  #6  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

I put it in the merge of the Y pipe. This way its picking up both sides of the engine.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 05:57 AM
  #7  
bristol16's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: NH
Default

Originally Posted by conan
I put it in the merge of the Y pipe. This way its picking up both sides of the engine.
What if the y-pipe is after the cats? Any way to get it reading both sides without two sensors?
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 08:30 AM
  #8  
k_garretson23's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 661
Likes: 0
From: clementon, nj
Default

i put mine on the drivers side right under the drain plug for the floor, so I could run the wires up through that. When you weld in your bung make sure its angled upwards or youll get a rich reading if fuel puddles by the sensor.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 08:34 AM
  #9  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

Originally Posted by bristol16
What if the y-pipe is after the cats? Any way to get it reading both sides without two sensors?
I think for that set up your going to have to pick a side. I would go with the driver side since the #7 hole is alway the leanest and prone to failure.

I would like to know why the weld in wide band instructions tell you to go before the cat's, but when you are getting a dyno tune, they stuff the wide band in the tail pipe ???
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 10:17 AM
  #10  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

OK now I am confused as hell, wouldn't at the merge if the stock y-pipe be really in accurate? What I may just do is put it in the top side of the section of the cat they cut off. *just a blank pipe*
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 11:01 AM
  #11  
redtan's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 17
From: Belmont, MA
Default

If you don't have any cats, then why not just put it in one of the rear o2 sensor bungs?

I would put it on the driver's side instead of the rear o2 sensor. No need to weld anything and it will be more accurate than after the merge since the closer to the collector the better.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:27 PM
  #12  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by redtan
If you don't have any cats, then why not just put it in one of the rear o2 sensor bungs?

I would put it on the driver's side instead of the rear o2 sensor. No need to weld anything and it will be more accurate than after the merge since the closer to the collector the better.
I actually might do that, just pull the rear driver 02 and just plug in the wideband. i planned on doing the driver side on this setup. since i have been told #7 is the one that most commenly fails.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 03:51 PM
  #13  
gMAG's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,033
Likes: 4
From: CT
Default

I think that the angle suggestion has more to do with condensation settling on the sensor. Keep the sensor away from the floor, and don't mount it at 90 degrees. Mount it higher than 90 degs, so that condensation will not sit on it.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 03:57 PM
  #14  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by gMAG
I think that the angle suggestion has more to do with condensation settling on the sensor. Keep the sensor away from the floor, and don't mount it at 90 degrees. Mount it higher than 90 degs, so that condensation will not sit on it.
What is the rear o2 sitting at on the F-body? If I can I will pull it and just swap the two. I don't have a way of looking atm
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 04:58 PM
  #15  
Pharcyde50's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Default

I mounted mine level on the drivers side no issues in 6+ years. Its about 8" back from the collector. Drivers side is supposed to be the leaner bank. Or could bling it out with dual wide bands.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 04:59 PM
  #16  
torkls1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Wausau, WI
Default

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but you shouldn't take out an o2 sensor, and install a wideband in that o2 bung. Your motor needs both driver and passenger side o2's for the pcm to adjust correctly.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 05:03 PM
  #17  
bristol16's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: NH
Default

Originally Posted by torkls1
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but you shouldn't take out an o2 sensor, and install a wideband in that o2 bung. Your motor needs both driver and passenger side o2's for the pcm to adjust correctly.
Yes, but it only needs the first two (the upstream sensors) to calculate fuel trim. The suggestion to replace an O2 sensor was for a downstream sensor on a vehicle without catalytic converters...which would make the downstream sensors useless anyway since their main function is to monitor cat efficiency.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 05:22 PM
  #18  
torkls1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Wausau, WI
Default

My bad. Missed the part saying "rear" driver o2 sensor.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 05:49 PM
  #19  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

All very good info! And since my rear o2s are useless anyways I will plug it into that

As far as power. Where do most of you tap for switched 12v power *accessory power*
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 11:49 AM
  #20  
Mista Blazer's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Moore, Oklahoma
Default

Anyone? I thought about hooking it to the alternating 12v from the head unit but I already have my axxs controls for the steering wheel on it as well. I don't want to overload that wire
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:08 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE