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Old May 19, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Is anyone using the new March Performance fluid filled pulley?

If so, what are the results? Thanks in advance for any input.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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I want to know too!! TTT for ya!
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SEARCH!!!! I heard the March weighs more than the stock, but offers better crankshaft vibration dampening. Thats it in a nutshell.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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SEARCH!!!! I heard the March weighs more than the stock, but offers better crankshaft vibration dampening. Thats it in a nutshell.
I did search and all I found was a bunch of talk about the weight - what I wanna see are the results - track times/dyno numbers before and after and compared to ASP.

Everyone seemed stuck on the weight issue - which, because it is full of fluid, isn't as much of an issue as they think.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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I don't have any track results, or any dyno #'s. But what I do know is that they have spent alot of time making sure that it will do what they say it will. They claim you will gain 12hp, & since it is a fluid damper it will not affect any of the knock sensors & loose power. I have these in stock ready to ship if any one is interested. I ordered 5 of them for stock when they first came out & had them sold within a few days. I have not had any feedback from my past customers, but sometimes no news is good news!

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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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How much are they? Can I get it with bolt and belts?
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Old May 21, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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I have the pulley & alternator pulley.
No problems the car runs great, no issues with knock (seen others B-4) or with charging.
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I just weighed the March pulley and the stocker. They are both 11 lbs, give or take. The mass belonging to the March is situated closer to its center due to it being a smaller pulley. Conversely, most of the mass of the stocker is found on its outer hub which is farther away from its center than the March product. The way I am considering this, provided that the mass in each pulley is perfectly balanced, it will take more energy to accelerate the mass which is furthest from the center hub (stock unit). It also will require more energy to slow the mass which is further from the hub (stock unit).
In addition, the theory behind the March or any other underdrive pulley, is to move the mass of the pulley at a slower RATE than the stock pulley. The cumulative result is less weight over TIME.
You might consider the above by relating it to a battery in the engine compartment. As the battery is placed more forward (away from the center of the car) its weight factor becomes more of an issue.
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Interesting...what would to say to the thought that the March pulley is fluid filled, which contributes much to the weight. But when you rev the engine, the fluid doesn't move, for the most part. An analogy would by water in a cup, if you turn the cup, the liquid will generally not move...

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I just weighed the March pulley and the stocker. They are both 11 lbs, give or take. The mass belonging to the March is situated closer to its center due to it being a smaller pulley. Conversely, most of the mass of the stocker is found on its outer hub which is farther away from its center than the March product. The way I am considering this, provided that the mass in each pulley is perfectly balanced, it will take more energy to accelerate the mass which is furthest from the center hub (stock unit). It also will require more energy to slow the mass which is further from the hub (stock unit).
In addition, the theory behind the March or any other underdrive pulley, is to move the mass of the pulley at a slower RATE than the stock pulley. The cumulative result is less weight over TIME.
You might consider the above by relating it to a battery in the engine compartment. As the battery is placed more forward (away from the center of the car) its weight factor becomes more of an issue.
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I just ordered one from Thunder.

Supposedly, the fitment issues have been resolved ...
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Interesting...what would to say to the thought that the March pulley is fluid filled, which contributes much to the weight. But when you rev the engine, the fluid doesn't move, for the most part. An analogy would by water in a cup, if you turn the cup, the liquid will generally not move...
That's a fact - the weight is not really an issue. I was just wondering if the claims of 12.5 HP have been seen by anyone and do the dyno graphs not have the dip that some others have (due to knock sensors being effected). I try not to buy parts till I've seen some real world results.
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So nobody has ever dynod the March pulley??
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Interesting...what would to say to the thought that the March pulley is fluid filled, which contributes much to the weight. But when you rev the engine, the fluid doesn't move, for the most part. An analogy would by water in a cup, if you turn the cup, the liquid will generally not move...
Time to call in the engineers! (sound the cavalry!) If you take that same cup of water and suddenly give it side thrust in one direction, the water will temporarily stay where it is. (fluid filled March). This also applies to misfire, or other internal vibrations. Circular inertia keeps the ring of fluid constant until vibration acts on the ring. The mass of the fluid (which is separate from the mass of the metal ring) is the counterbalance to the forces of vibration.
It'd be interesting to know the range of its counterbalancing effects.
Is the March also meant to compensate for mild weight imbalances in the rotating assembly?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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I believe that the only reason to buy the March pulley is it's ability to reduce vibrations in the crank. Other than that, I can't really find any benefits of it over the ASP pulley. As far as I'm concerend, they are dead even with benefits/faults, and it would be up to how much you want to pay.

Anyone agree/disagree?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Well considering the few places I have seen both of them sold, the March pulley has been less expensive. AND!!! As of this morning, Thunder is selling a March kit WITH belts, cheaper than it is selling the ASP pulley by itself.
So you do the math.
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I should be getting mine this week. Couldnt beat the deal from Thunder for the kit.
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