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Old 11-12-2014 | 11:40 AM
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So, what would be the "go to" TB to use on one of these?
Old 11-12-2014 | 01:12 PM
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Summit is now showing the intake. I also found it on Speedway Motors site and Colorado Speed.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-2702/applications

#2702 I think is the correct p/n for LS1's. $949.95 is the price shown. It is showing a ship date of 11/18/14 but I would be suspicious if that is a default date set up for the vendor. Who knows, maybe it is a valid date.
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I'm sure it's nice. I'm hoping to see good numbers from it when somebody dyno's it.

It's too much money. They priced it HIGHER than the F.A.S.T?

If it doesn't outperform the F.A.S.T. manifold, they ain't gonna sell many.

If it equaled the performance and they priced it like a hundred bucks lower, they'd dominate the market.
Old 11-12-2014 | 06:44 PM
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I wouldn't believe Summit dates at all. By next week, that date will get pushed out 2 weeks, and then the same thing will happen in 2 weeks. I talked to some people high up in MSD, and they all said mid January. They have like 12 intakes made, a couple were at SEMA, a couple were in cars at the Optima Shootout, and they have some in testing.
Old 11-12-2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
I'm sure it's nice. I'm hoping to see good numbers from it when somebody dyno's it.

It's too much money. They priced it HIGHER than the F.A.S.T?

If it doesn't outperform the F.A.S.T. manifold, they ain't gonna sell many.

If it equaled the performance and they priced it like a hundred bucks lower, they'd dominate the market.
To be fair the retail price on a FAST 102 is $950 also. I'd expect the "street" price will be the same shortly after it's released.
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The prices difference between the two is pretty much identical. I'd pay more for.this new one over a FAST because the FAST is ugly as sin. Plus, why make an aftermarket intake to compete against FAST and not have it out perform it??? That's just not smart business.
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im really curious at how this will compare to most of us with ported FAST 92mm's. the average FAST owner isnt running it stock, most are ported. So if the stock MSD is nearly as good as or better than a ported FAST, then they have their work made out for them! I'd sell my ported FAST for one of the MSD units. Time will tell what real world results show.
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Originally Posted by RedDeadG8
im really curious at how this will compare to most of us with ported FAST 92mm's. the average FAST owner isnt running it stock, most are ported. So if the stock MSD is nearly as good as or better than a ported FAST, then they have their work made out for them! I'd sell my ported FAST for one of the MSD units. Time will tell what real world results show.
Bad thing or good thing is your used fast should be falling in price then if there is competion. No one will want to buy a fast for a hundered dollars cheaper. If I can buy 10 HP for a hundered bucks more I would do it. That is if this new intake is better.
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The intake is now on Jegs site. It is posted at the same list price everyone has seen but with my IHRA discount I can get it from them for $855.48! So we should see lower prices filter into the market. I would almost guarantee the MSD product managers are watching the social media marketplace and I would imagine there is a high probability the list pricing could be subject to change during the products release.
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I'm willing to bet the LSXr will outperform this by a good margin and the LSXrT will be even better. If this was a $600 intake ala the Holley high-ram, then I bet it would sell well. I doubt we see dyno results any better than a FAST 90/92. I still can't see these plastic intakes having a very high unit-price to produce...
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I would love to see some back to back numbers between this intake and a FAST 102. Really could care less about the FAST 102 truck intake because it doesn't fit anyway.
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Originally Posted by 1970camaroRS
I'm willing to bet the LSXr will outperform this by a good margin and the LSXrT will be even better. If this was a $600 intake ala the Holley high-ram, then I bet it would sell well. I doubt we see dyno results any better than a FAST 90/92. I still can't see these plastic intakes having a very high unit-price to produce...
R&D and the tooling to make the intakes is what your paying for. It's a business
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
R&D and the tooling to make the intakes is what your paying for. It's a business
There you go with that commons sense again.
Old 11-17-2014 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
There you go with that commons sense again.
Damn it!! I did
Old 11-17-2014 | 02:32 PM
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Okay, so do we have for sure clarification that this intake will fit without having to do any cutting?

Also, Brien, what TB are you going to run with this intake?
Old 11-17-2014 | 02:52 PM
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Holy hell I want one. Yep.

I also want to hear what Tony Mamo thinks of them. There's no way he hasn't seen or heard of them yet.
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I plan to run my 90mm that I have now, unless someone makes me a solid offer on my intake and throttle body combo.
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But as far as fittment is concerned, it's good to go?
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
But as far as fittment is concerned, it's good to go?
There's a good question.

For me, I have to ask, "Has it been modded to address the C5 cowl area, without needing Hinson's shorter motor mounts?"

I also wonder if the Cathedral version will accept actual LS1 injectors, or if this one needs short ones or what.


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