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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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Wanted to see some y pipes or full exhaust set ups people are running with the 2" f body headers. I want to order a set and debating on how I want to run my y pipe.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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from my understanding most ppl run the 1 7/8 and not the 2". IMO the 1 7/8 will be more than fine for your car, the 2" is more for all out drag cars that actually flow that much, take heed from texas speed's description on their site,

"Our 2.00" long tube headers are designed for the more extreme applications looking to make the most power possible."

Stock heads or even H/C/I cars on here don't need em, but again this is all IMO. Keep in mind you will need also need an aftermarket k member to clear them, and no out-the-box exhaust will mate up to them so you need a custom or fabbed setup so theres another can of worms you open besides the K-member.

1 7/8 will flow plenty well and make plenty of power

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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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I have a tubular k member already and the car has been to the track more than the street the past few years. Figures for near the same price the 2" would be worth the extra few $
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLIN Z28
I have a tubular k member already and the car has been to the track more than the street the past few years. Figures for near the same price the 2" would be worth the extra few $
again its your build but its a header designed for the cars making the 700HP and above markers IMO. Its just plain overkill on anything else and I doubt you'd see much HP improvement if any over the standard 1 7/8 and certainly not worth the hassle of fitment for a marginal if any gain.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 04:58 PM
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I don't see you being any faster by doing this with your mods
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I have the 3.5" collector and run homeade duals. But with the 3" collector I believe you can run their regular Y pipe. Here is some vids of my car https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...arts-pile.html
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
I don't see you being any faster by doing this with your mods
if anything I think It would hurt his gains
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
if anything I think It would hurt his gains
Yep I agree
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Really in my opinion the only time you need 2" headers is really all out big cube motors or of coarse a blower car, they love to get the air out, now if you already have a tubular k member and feel that one day you might go forced induction I would say go for it, if not I would stick with 1 7/8. You will have a little more back pressure and in turn some more low end tq you MAY pick up a FEW hp with the 2" but at what cost, loosing double the tq would hurt you more, just my opinion it isn't worth much lol.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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Really in my opinion the only time you need 2" headers is really all out big cube motors or of coarse a blower car, they love to get the air out, now if you already have a tubular k member and feel that one day you might go forced induction I would say go for it, if not I would stick with 1 7/8. You will have a little more back pressure and in turn some more low end tq you MAY pick up a FEW hp with the 2" but at what cost, loosing double the tq would hurt you more, just my opinion it isn't worth much lol.


Exactly, just because you can doesnt mean you should. OP would regret it. I wouldnt even throw em on with plans for a blower in the future unless i was bolting the blower on as we speak lol, plans change.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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If I had a tubular k member when I was buying headers I would have gotten the 2in. I think an aggressive h/c/I car would benefit from the bigger header.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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If I had a tubular k member when I was buying headers I would have gotten the 2in. I think an aggressive h/c/I car would benefit from the bigger header.
there have been multiple threads proving that even 1 7/8 headers are too big for most people, multiple reputable builders and tuners dont recommend them until CID pushes over 400 or HP is getting to 700 and above. Yea it will make power and work but its not a biggest dick contest, just throwing the biggest intake and biggest header on there because its the biggest isnt the best idea unless the rest of the build matches. A properly setup stock cubes motor with 1 3/4 headers and a stock ls6 intake can blow the doors off a stock cubes 2" header and FAST 102 car that isnt setup right.
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I have an ls3, cam, Vic jr with 4150 tb and plan on spraying a 200 shot. Soon enough a set of heads and a 417.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 01:28 AM
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Unless you are going to have a cut-out directly after the Y-pipe, I think it is silly to put those nice free flowing 2" headers in front of a single exhaust. If you are worried about the extra flow 2" headers might give you, then you should absolutely be running true dual exhaust. For a blower, nitrous, and/or a 417ci build, all of those things could and probably would benefit from the larger headers.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLIN Z28
I have an ls3, cam, Vic jr with 4150 tb and plan on spraying a 200 shot. Soon enough a set of heads and a 417.
If thats the plan, I would get the 2" headers.
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
there have been multiple threads proving that even 1 7/8 headers are too big for most people, multiple reputable builders and tuners dont recommend them until CID pushes over 400 or HP is getting to 700 and above. Yea it will make power and work but its not a biggest dick contest, just throwing the biggest intake and biggest header on there because its the biggest isnt the best idea unless the rest of the build matches. A properly setup stock cubes motor with 1 3/4 headers and a stock ls6 intake can blow the doors off a stock cubes 2" header and FAST 102 car that isnt setup right.
There have also been multiple threads showing a stock LS1 making more power with a 1 7/8 over a 1 3/4...go figure.


Originally Posted by SPOOLIN Z28
I have an ls3, cam, Vic jr with 4150 tb and plan on spraying a 200 shot. Soon enough a set of heads and a 417.
Get the 2"!!
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
There have also been multiple threads showing a stock LS1 making more power with a 1 7/8 over a 1 3/4...go figure. Get the 2"!!
That is my point as well. The bottom end power might suffer, but for a race car I think even a max effort 346 would benefit from the bigger header
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
There have also been multiple threads showing a stock LS1 making more power with a 1 7/8 over a 1 3/4...go figure.

Get the 2"!!
Hows that bottom end look on a street car though?

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That is my point as well. The bottom end power might suffer, but for a race car I think even a max effort 346 would benefit from the bigger header
I think the key word here is race car. I agree a max effort build the larger 1 7/8 is the way to go, but for the average street car on here 1 3/4 is the way to go, now since OP has posted his build I still say 1 7/8 but hey its not my build nor my car, OP good luck and hope you accomplish your goals.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLIN Z28
I have an ls3, cam, Vic jr with 4150 tb and plan on spraying a 200 shot. Soon enough a set of heads and a 417.
It has been proven over and over in LS3 applications (5th Gen) for 2" headers to make more power across the board over a 1-7/8" even in a stock application. Once you throw nitrous into the mix it's a given. The only downside would be that clearance is tight with the 2" primaries in an F-Body.
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Originally Posted by Sales3@Texas-Speed
It has been proven over and over in LS3 applications (5th Gen) for 2" headers to make more power across the board over a 1-7/8" even in a stock application. Once you throw nitrous into the mix it's a given. The only downside would be that clearance is tight with the 2" primaries in an F-Body.
given the OPs application of ls3 with nitrous I would agree 1 7/8 or 2" for a max effort build

the back and forth in this thread is because we all thought OP had an ls1 with street car build
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