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Old 11-18-2016, 04:25 PM
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The problem I had before was the transmission was shifting VERY hard into drive and reverse - so much so the rear wheels chirped if I didn't hold the brakes on hard. Local diagnostics place looked at the TPS after recommendation from ClineBarger in the auto transmission part of this forum and as suspected the TPS was reading well above 0% at idle - 7/8% and so the PCM was increasing line pressure in the transmission. He also found that opening the throttle just a tiny amount made the TPS Reading drop back to 0% and then immediately back to 7% where it would continue to rise normally. Other than that, the actual driving experience was ok and you wouldn't notice any issues (TCC worked fine with this dodgy original TPS). So I ordered one from a uk supplier which turned out to be a cheap Chinese one which didn't solve anything as you can read above. I then got an AC Delco pro one which broke sometime in the 12 hours from fitting to when I found it broken the next day (fell to pieces and was going open circuit across the potentiometer - returned to rockauto for analysis!) this third TPS is a Standard branded one and seems much better quality than all the others I've tried.

**update** - got home from work today and checked TPS signal voltage and decided to check it using the connector ground rather than the battery negative post. The voltage measured 0.42 volts doing it this way and so I reset to 0.55. It seems the voltage between connector ground and signal wire is about 0.1 volts lower than signal wire to battery negative. I assumed that the PCM was seeing the wrong voltage because I've been setting it unknowingly too low. There must be a higher resistance in the connector ground compared to going straight to the battery. Relearned and went for a drive and the TCC is working again! Turned the engine off and on multiple times and the TCC works each time. Not been in this situation for some weeks so I'm hoping this is fixed. I will report back if the fault comes back.
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Still working fine after 200 miles. Very pleased.
Old 11-21-2016, 04:06 PM
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What brand/Where did you get your latest TPS from?
Old 11-21-2016, 05:24 PM
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It's a standard motor products one - TH149 is their part number.

Being uk based means I usually have to order from Rock Auto, Summit or Jegs. Luckily though one of the UK American car parts suppliers we have over here, has these as a stock item.

The SMP one says made in the USA compared to the AC Delco one which was made in Mexico. I guess it does make a big difference...
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Yeah I cheaped out and got an autozone sensor which is reading 3% at idle. So I was gonna try an AC Delco unit, but I think I'll give this one a try
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All I had to do was slot the mount holes a little and remove the locating tab to allow me to dial in the voltage to around 0.53 at fully closed throttle. Other than that it went straight on.
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Sounds good. What are you using to measure the voltage?
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My Fluke 87V multimeter.
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Little update: I got the SMP TPS and I test fitted it on my TB and as I pulled it off it fell apart...so looks like I'll be looking elsewhere
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That's not good at all. Wonder how the hell that happened?!
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Originally Posted by CoreyD
Little update: I got the SMP TPS and I test fitted it on my TB and as I pulled it off it fell apart...so looks like I'll be looking elsewhere
My tps did the exact same thing. I think once you install you are not supposed to remove it. There is nothing to keep the center piece from coming apart from the outer piece.
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
My tps did the exact same thing. I think once you install you are not supposed to remove it. There is nothing to keep the center piece from coming apart from the outer piece.
That could explain it. Live and learn I guess!



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