I bought my Kooks TD's and 1 7/8 headers for under 1900.00.

 

The difference between $1900 and $780 will buy a lot bolts and time at the exhaust shop.

 

shhhh, tone down your sound logic. There are snow flakes abound.

 

That was not my point...I have already stated that the SE exhaust is a great value. Just saying the Kooks can be had for cheaper then 2k.

 

Well said. Nobody is asking much and no to some a cheaper exhaust is the way to go and that's fine but fact of the matter you buy something specifically designed for our cars, I myself along with others like a direct fit with no issues and there were issues and of course it can be fixed in many different ways but we didn't buy an exhaust just to go replace bolts, fab up different hangers or butcher the x pipe.

 

1. My packaging was fine, SE cant sit in the truck with the package so you are at the mercy of fedex at this point

2. Any missing parts can be sent from SE after a quick claim, mistakes happen, the world isn't perfect.

3. The bolts are of poor quality, however it is a first edition of the system and after several complaints SE has noted this and planned to upgrade the bolts for future orders. I went to ace and got all grade 8 bolts and washers for less than 10 bucks.

4. The clearance is low, but with some fine tuning and know-how it can be installed to tuck better than the average joe who just throws it on there. And of those that have complained of low setups, have also noted that they don't seem to scrape that often. Its 3" Mandrel pipes going where they were not engineered to go in the first place, I think they did just fine and with some minor adjustments in future versions could have an almost OEM clearance.


5. The "hassle" has been reduced to driving to ACE and buying some common bolts and paying attention to what you are doing during the install.

 

Thank you usnfenix..

Honestly, I think the problem to most installing our kits is that this kit is not your normal header and y-pipe installation. I even noticed when installing the kit that once the kit is together it takes a lot of fineness to correctly position everything, which requires the right install tools as well. We probably took another 30 min adjusting the entire kit using multiple underhoist stands before even tightening a single clamp. I too saw that without correctly positioning/twisting the tubes the kit would hang much lower to the ground in different locations. This is one of the most difficult exhaust kits to install correctly with all the pieces included with this kit. I personally put everything into position clamped everything as tight as possible then tacked every joint to make sure the exhaust didn't slip/sag causing clearance issues. When we were test fitting the prototype all the piping had proper clearance when installed correctly, that's why we do not have any revisions planed. However, we are looking into including an additional hanger bracket for the center section of the exhaust, which seems to be issue for most customers. Its not that the center of the kit is made too low. The kit can physically be pushed into the bottom of the car. Its the issue of the kit slipping at multiple joints lowering the exhaust with customers not knowing how to address the issue correctly. Some say that our X-Pipe points at the ground. Yes, it will point at the ground if the tubing is not twisted up accordingly. It is at that angle to properly clear driveshaft safety loops, and chassis mounted torque arms. We have installed several different types of true dual kits over the years including Hooker and Kooks true duals. The ground clearance between all of them is pretty close to the same including ours. As we stated previously we are working on better clamp bolts, and once another round of true dual kits come in we will look further into helping out some of the lowered guys get better ground clearance as well. Thank you guys again we appreciate your comments/business.

Thanks
Sean

 

My perspective on this is rather simple. To some degree you mod at your own risk. Sometimes, you have to get creative, use extra persuasion, etc, when changing your car. You see similar complaints on intake fitment, electric water pumps, etc.

My kooks system was no different. I had to put jackstands in the right places, twist the pipes to provide natural upward force, etc. its not a stock exhaust and it won't go in exactly like a stock system. i wish this system existed when I did the kooks. i'd have jumped all over it.

Sometimes, you just gotta be prepared to mod your car in order to mod your car.

 

 

lol jay

 

holy ****!

 

So how long until a new order is ready to be shipped out? I ordered mine last night and absolutely can not wait to get it in already!! I will deal with the ground clearance. I was amazed when I seen the price of this system. More importantly hurry up Sean!

 

Lol

We listed 6/1 on the website, however we put a rush on the next batch. So we are hopping much sooner than that.

Thanks
Sean

 

Any plans on offering something like below? For the guys who want dumped duals with a chassis mounted torque arm.

 

Just going by full retail for a brand new exhaust, some people cant always wait for a deal to come up in the classifieds

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=6903

 

I bought mine new for that price not used.

A site sponsor use to offer some really deep discounts on kooks products in the fall(they still might). I bought mine back in 2011. I think I paid 1250.00 for the exhaust and 650.00 for the headers. The price has gone up quite a bit since then which is why I think the SE TD is a great value.

 

blk00ss: No plans at the moment. Looks clean though.

Thanks
Sean

 

son of A!!!!!! You need to hurry that up that order SIRRRRR!!!!

 

Is the new batch the updated version? If you guys are really going to update them No offense

 

We are hoping within the next month, but have an eta of 6/1 listed.

As stated in previous posts we do not have any plans for revisions at this time.

Thanks
Sean